by Jim Redden

You're sick. Your nose is stuffy, your body aches, you're sweaty, and you don't have enough energy to get out of bed.

It's not the flu - it's a conspiracy.

At least, that's what Dr. Len Horowitz says.

Over the past 10 years, Horowitz has become America's most controversial medical authority. A university-trained medical researcher, Horowitz, 48, charges that elements of the United States government are conspiring with major pharmaceutical companies to make large segments of the population sick. More than that, he charges that these same conspirators created the AIDS epidemic to kill Blacks, Hispanics and gays. And if that's not enough, Horowitz argues that Adolph Hitler created the New World Order to fulfill his twisted dream of world domination.

Horowitz has made these claims in a series of books, videos, public appearances and radio talk shows. Today, Horowitz is best known as one of the most vocal opponents of government-mandated vaccines. He believes that vaccine manufacturers have purposely contaminated their products with a wide range of exotic viruses, including funguses developed by the United States military. He believes contaminated vaccines were intentionally used to create the AIDS epidemic.

Despite his wild claims, Horowitz has a serious academic background. After he received a doctorate in dentistry from Tufts University, he was awarded a fellowship to do behavioral research at the University of Rochester. Horowitz later earned a Master of Public Health degree in behavioral science from Harvard University and a Masters degree in health education from Beacon College. He has also served on the faculties of Tufts University, Harvard University, and Leslie College's Institute for the Arts and Human Development. His published research reports have appeared in a diverse array of scientific, professional, and lay periodicals ranging from "American Health" and "Wellness Management" magazines to the "Journal of Patient Education and Counseling," the "Journal of AIDS Patient Care" and the "British Dental Journal."

At the same time, Horowitz has turned his back on the medical establishment and embraced alternative, wholistic therapies. He currently serves as president of Tetrahedron, Incorporated, a non-profit organization founded in Massachusetts in 1987. According to the organization's literature, Tetrahedron's mission is "to provide people with opportunities to enhance their own abilities to experience health in body, mind, emotions, and spirit. To aid and help people educate others to create harmonious social relationships within safe and supportive environments and thereby help develop a world which functions more for the benefit of all humanity."

Among other things, Tetrahedron offers seminars featuring Horowitz as a motivational speaker. The organization has also published Horowitz's numerous books, including Emerging Viruses: AIDS & Ebola - Nature,Accident, or Intentional? and his newest work, Healing Codes of the Biblical Apocalypse.

Horowitz has travelled the country for years, speaking at both his own seminars and at survivalist-oriented Preparedness Expos, where he has appeared before large, enthusiastic crowds. A dynamic public speaker, Horowitz has presented his conspiracy theories to hundreds of thousands of people over the past decade, personally selling his books and tapes before and after his presentations. He has also appeared on numerous talk radio shows, including the nationally-broadcast "Art Bell Show" and "Sightings" with Jeff Rense.

In January 2000, Horowitz began touring the country with a series of "Healing Celebrations" designed to introduce newly-discovered natural therapies for fighting illnesses, including cancer and other immune system-related ailments. A Jew who has converted to evangelical Christianity, Horowitz says these treatments are God's own healing methods.

I caught up with Horowitz at the Airport Holiday Inn in Portland, Oregon on February 4. He was scheduled to speak at a "Healing Celebration" scheduled for that evening and the next day in the hotel's largest conference room.

A handsome man with a firm handshake and smooth manner, Horowitz met me in the lobby of the hotel. Dressed in a tailored grey suit, white shirt and tie, he agreed to be interviewed in the hotel restaurant. We sat in a booth with a small formica table. He ordered a glass of water and a small plate of lemon slices, squeezing the slices into the glass and sipping the water throughout the interview. He answered questions for over 90 minutes. What follows is a partial transcript, edited for space and clarity.


REDDEN: I'd like to begin this interview by asking you about the flu. Many of my friends are sick, and I've read a number of news stories which say that people are sick around the world. So many people are sick that hospital emergency rooms are swamped and doctors are postponing surgeries. But at the same time, the mainstream media is not referring to this outbreak as an epidemic. So let me ask you, is there a flu epidemic underway or not?

 HOROWITZ: There has been for quite some time, but the authorities are suppressing the news about it. It's only been recently that the mainstream media has acknowledged that hospital emergency rooms are filled with patients with this bizarre upper respiratory infection that doesn't quite seem to be a virus - a flu that the flu vaccines were ineffective against, that was a surprise and a complete mystery to the Centers for Disease Control authorities.

That's all hogwash, bogus nonsense. The fact of the matter is, we have seen this type of an epidemic since the end of 1998 and the beginning of 1999. People have been hacking and coughing with this bizarre illness that does not seem to follow any logical viral or bacterial onset and transition period. It was something that did not cause a high fever. If it was a bacterial or viral infection, it would have caused a fever in these people. It didn't. It was something that lasted weeks, if not months. They had sinus congestion, sinus drainage, they had a cough, they had fatigue, general malaise, they felt they were not quite right.

 REDDEN: Then is it fair to call this the flu, or is it something else?

 HOROWITZ: I think it's only fair to call it flu-like. It is pathognomonic of, not a bacterial or viral infection, it is pathognomonic of a fungus or a fungus related to a flu. And that's exactly what has been developed and patented by the Armed Forces Research Institute of Pathology. We've reprinted the patent report in the new book, Healing Codes for the Biblical Apocalypse. We show you the report on the "pathogenic micoplasma." That's a quote, "pathogenic micoplasma."

And if you know anything about micoplasmas, mico indicates fungal, but yet micoplasma is not really a fungus, it's not really a bacteria, it's not really a virus. It's sort of like a pseudo all of them. It has no cell wall, it goes deep into the cell nuclei thereby making it very difficult to mount an immune response against.

 REDDEN: And it's man-made -

 HOROWITZ: It's man-made. It can be used as a biological weapon. It was developed as an AIDS vaccine-related organism. It was extracted from AIDS patients. It is responsible for virtually all of the symptoms which AIDS patients suffer from. The AIDS virus is at best a co-factor, and not even such a strong co-factor as to bring on all of the symptoms of AIDS. This particular organism, the micoplasma, is associated with this upper respiratory flu-like illness. And it's also associated in its pathogenic process with a whole variety of other symptoms that mimic AIDS.

 REDDEN: And that's what you think is causing this epidemic?

 HOROWITZ: That's only one of the factors. The patent report lays it out. Like, how you can use a factor like that to cause chronic upper respiratory infections just like what is going on. I mean, virtually identical to what's going on. It's patented by the Armed Forces Research Institute of Pathology.

 REDDEN: How did it get out of the lab and into the general population?

 HOROWITZ: There's only speculation, and the most likely thesis that I'm looking at is through contaminated vaccines, contaminated blood supplies. I don't know any other suitable mode of transmitting that kind of infectious agent.

 REDDEN: What about the current controversy over chemtrails - the theory that airplanes are spraying the population with some kind of chemical or biological weapon. As I understand it, a number of researchers believe that many of the contrails in the skies these days are not the normal contrails formed by high-flying jets, but are actually trails of chemical or biological agents which spread out and then fall on the earth. Could this micoplasma be transmitted to the population through chemtrails?

 HOROWITZ: I don't relate it to the chemtrails. I don't believe that this particular organism could be suitably spread that way. But I believe the chemtrails are responsible for a chemical intoxication of the public, which would then cause a general immune suppression, low grade to high grade, depending on exposure. An immune dysfunction, which would then allow people to become susceptible to opportunistic infections, such as this micoplasma and other opportunistic infections.

 REDDEN: So you believe that high-flying planes are, in fact, spraying something on the population - that the theory is real?

 HOROWITZ: There's no question that it's real. There's no doubt about that. I first began to investigate chemtrails when some were sprayed over my home in Northern Idaho. I took pictures of them, and then contacted the Environmental Protection Agency of the state. When I contacted their directors, they were clueless and referred me to the Air Force. They then got me in touch with Centers for Disease Control Toxicology, and after about a week I received a letter from one of their chief toxicologists saying, indeed there was some amount of ethylene dibromide in the jet fuel.

Now, ethylene dibromide is a known human chemical carcinogen that was removed from unleaded gasoline because of its cancer-causing effects. Now suddenly it has appeared in the jet fuel that apparently high-altitude military aircraft are emitting.

 REDDEN: Why has ethylene dibromide been added to jet fuel?

 HOROWITZ: When you examine who owns the fuel, who are the fuel company directors, suddenly you enter into the realm of the Rockefeller family and the royal families - Standard Oil and British Petroleum. And what are their other agendas? Suddenly now you see their documents, showing that they have funded, historically, eugenics, racial hygiene, genocide, depopulation, family planning, maternal and child health - where they make and deliver vaccines, and contaminated blood supplies. These are the banksters, the same people who run the blood banking as well as the money banking industries.

In both Emerging Viruses and Healing Codes, I reference a great book by Dr. John Coleman, who worked as a British Secret Service agent at the highest levels. And he articulated very clearly who was running those companies. It all goes back, ultimately, to the highest level of the royal family. The Bush family, Rothschild family, the Rockefeller money, and the entire Rockefeller establishment is based on Rothschild money and royal families.

So you begin to then, at least, put forward a possible theory, that if you can't explain it rationally and any other way, I think you've got to begin to consider conspiracy theories. And once you eliminate the negative label that you've placed on conspiracy theories per se, because that's been demonized, as has the terms wholistic medicine, wholistic health -

 REDDEN: Naturopathic -

 HOROWITZ: Naturopathy. I mean these labels get placed and as soon as they do, you know, it begins to wave red flags and people avoid those things. But, you know, when you really just define a conspiracy as is defined in Websters, as two or more people getting together behind closed doors covertly and planning something unethical, immoral, illegal and then carrying it out, that's a conspiracy.

So that's now what you're looking at, at the highest levels. You're looking at decision-makers who have, for whatever reasons, decided to put this toxic waste into jet fuels for human exposure, what ultimately's going to be human exposure. And it just so happens that these same people have put a lot of money into reducing world populations.

So now you ask yourself, when it comes to testing human subjects like American citizens unwittingly, unwillingly, who sprays toxins out of airplanes over San Francisco, kills people that way, who sprays biologicals on the Pennsylvania turnpike that induce death? Who has done that historically, as clearly articulated in the Frank Church congressional hearings of 1975, has been Central Intelligence Agency biological weapons contracting firms, such as Litton Bionetics, such as the Army Corp of Engineers when they were developing and utilizing these various biologicals.

And this is all done under black operations, covert operations, where they get funding and congressional people are never informed really where this money is going. It's the black budget.

 REDDEN: As I understand it, this is not just an American epidemic, but it's gone across Europe -

 HOROWITZ: That's right. And so have the chemtrails. I've got colleagues over there, I've got colleagues in the Bahamas, Bermuda, Toronto, British Columbia all reporting the same bizarre seeding of the atmosphere. It's horrible. What is going on is just despicable.

 REDDEN: One reason I'm interested in this subject is, I personal know three people who had the exact same thing happen to them. First they came down with flu-like symptoms which didn't go away. Then they went to the doctor, and the doctor said their flu had developed into a bacterial infection and we can give you antibiotics for that. Then they were all given a brand new antibiotic they had never taken before, and they all had serious allergic reactions.

 HOROWITZ: Right. Isn't that fascinating?

 REDDEN: What happened to them?

 HOROWITZ: OK, that's a great question. I'm glad you asked that because I should have mentioned it before. What you're looking at with this upper respiratory infection is that it is a multi-factorial illness. It's associated with a variety of chemical and biological co-factors. Just like with AIDS, it's not the AIDS virus that ultimately kills, it's co-factor microbes such as the micoplasma.

What you have could be described as an ideal Russian biological cocktail. And I suppose it's called Russia biological cocktail because the Americans likely invented it. What they determined would be the best biological chemical warfare approach was a combination of chemicals and biologicals, so that it would be very difficult to diagnose and then treat the illnesses. Moreover, it would be very difficult to trace where they came from.

If you've got, say, ethylene dibromide coming out of the jet fuels that is causing immune suppression and weakening your immune system, and then you've got a micoplasma microbe or a fungus that causes an upper respiratory illness, suddenly you develop a secondary bacterial infection. Now you get hit with antibiotics, and the antibiotics cause your body chemistry to go acidic, so now you get rashes and other things, your liver gets full of toxins and comes out through your skin in rashes and they get hyperallergenic reactions associated with the other chemicals.

So all of a sudden now, you realize that you've got a human being who is completely out of balance and infected by two, three or four microbial co-factors as well as intoxicated by a variety of different chemicals. 

REDDEN: A point of clarification. Are You saying that the fungus is working with the chemtrails and the antibiotic to make people sick?

 HOROWITZ. Exactly. And you've got somebody who's going to be chronically ill. And in the contemporary warfare arena, where experts in biological chemical warfare convene and discuss the ways that are ideal to conduct warfare today, to really take an enemy out, you don't want to kill the people. You want to produce people who are chronically ill and become dependant on the state and totally sap the resources of the country. And then you can move in further with your military-medical-industrial complex, your international medical-pharmaceutical cartel. And then you sell these beleaguered and defeated countries all of the pharmaceuticals and chemicals that they need to maintain any semblance of healthy function.

 REDDEN: So you've got a work force that can work, but they're too tired after they finish working to -

 HOROWITZ: That's exactly it. They're completely depleted. They can't put together a military, you create a dependence and thereby you weaken the population, and weakened populations are easily to control. So you've got population control, and you make vast fortunes doing it, versus just blowing up a nuclear weapon and devastating the infrastructure that you own. You and your colleagues own that infrastructure. You want to get rid of the people. You don't want to get rid of infrastructure.

What I'm relating to you now is not speculation. If you were to read the top experts analysis of military warfare, such as what is articulated in The Report From Iron Mountain, which even the authorities, they say that this is a hoax, a satire, but, you know, there's nothing funny about it. The propaganda, the spin that they put on it is that the document is a satire. But when you read it, there's nothing funny about it.

 REDDEN: That's true.

 HOROWITZ: For example, in the book Healing Codes for the Biblical Apocalypse I reprint the entire summary section and recommendations of the book Iron Mountain. And then you go into Chapter 12 and you learn what the most advanced ideology is for warfare in the 21st Century and it is what I'm telling you. It is a replacement for the standard military warfare that we've been accustomed to for centuries.

 REDDEN: You mentioned the Rockefellers. You think the Rockefeller family is one of the major players in this conspiracy?

 HOROWITZ: Oh, absolutely. One of the major players in world genocide, world population reduction. That's no mystery anymore. I mean, you even have some mainstream publishing companies, such as St. Martin's Press, writing the most horrific exposes of the Rockefeller family. You have Oxford University Press, publishing, for example, Christopher Simpson's work, called The Science of Coercion, where he proves that virtually the entire scientific - and particularly health science - agenda was laid out by the Rockefeller family. In the 1920s, the federal government was giving very little money for public health. Where the huge investment in public health in the United States came from was the Rockefeller financial coffers, you know. They were behind it all. And so, already by the 30s, the early 1930s, who was responsible for the primary viral research investments, public health looking at cancer, who created the cancer industry in the 1920s, was the Rockefellers - all the Rockefeller money.

And if you didn't go along with that particular money making population controlling agenda as a health scientist or health professional you were traditionally demoted, defunded, ostracized. And then if you kept it up, you were persecuted and then jailed. I know many, many people who've gone through that.

 REDDEN: What is the Rockefeller family's motivation? Do they think they're doing good?

 HOROWITZ: You know, to give them the benefit of the doubt, yeah. I mean, I start the book Emerging Viruses, AIDS and Ebola off with the famous quote by Solzhenitsyn, "To do evil, a human being must first believe that what they are doing is good. It is ideology that gives devil-doing its long-sought justification." And so, to give them the benefit of the doubt, let's just say they think they're doing good. They perceive, let's say, even though there's not a great deal of hard, scientific evidence, there's far more propaganda than really good analysis of this, that the over-population issue is largely a myth. And I say largely because there are certainly urban areas of the world that are quote over-populated unquote.

But when one looks at the misuse of resources, the misuse of the environment, and you realize who is misusing and abusing that environment - look at what the oil industry has done, just the Rockefeller and royal family oil industry. Look at who pollutes the atmosphere. Look at who suppresses the alternative energy resources. So who is responsible for the degradation of the environment so that now those over-populated urban areas, they can't even get good water. They can't get good food. They can't grow things because the soil's been depleted by the same people who since the 1930s knew that their misuse of agriculture methods were going to cause a depletion of the minerals in the soils.

So, all of this literally is mismanaged bio-agenda. And you could argue that all these people are making vast fortunes off of humanity's suffering. The Rockefellers monopolized American medicine in the 1920s. They, along with I.G. Farben, Germany's leading industrial organization, held the monopoly on the world's chemical and pharmaceutical industries. The Rockefellers and I.G. Farben worked together before World War II and during World War II. For all practical purposes, the Rockefellers and I.G. Farben were the Third Reich.

So you can say, oh, it's just a figment of my conspiracy theorist's imagination that says that these people are preparing biologicals in their labs and transmitting them through their medical products, and these same people are putting ethylene dibromide in jet fuel, and everyone is getting upper respiratory infections from the biologicals and chemicals, and then these same people are making vast fortunes off all the quote effective antibiotics unquote that they have against these things. You can just make that argument.

But then, unfortunately, if you're a true researcher, you don't even stop there. Suddenly you get laid out all of the other more insidious, more horrifying documentation, such as who also gave rise to Hitler's racial hygiene program - they're the same people. They funded it. It was the Rockefeller family that built and funded the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Anthropology, Eugenics and Human Heredity, which was run by Swiss psychiatrist Ernst Rudin, who was named president of the worldwide Eugenics Federation in 1932.

Now that's real well articulated in that book published by St. Martin's by Aarons and Loftus called The Secret War Against the Jews. And also another very good book by Little Brown called Martin Bormann: Nazi in Exile. Martin Bormann, like Hitler, was never found. It's only come out recently on the History Channel that they admit it's likely that the carcass that was found in the bunker in Berlin was not Hitler's. I just saw that the other day on the History Channel. It was either the History or Discovery Channel, one of the two. Martin Bormann is clearly known to have skipped town and was never found.

This was Germany's principle money man. He was in charge of the Nazi war chest. The entire German economy was under his direction. He was the liaison with the banksters, the Rockefellers. He laundered half of the remaining Nazi war chest through the Chase Manhattan Bank. The Paris branch, which remained open throughout the German occupation of France. And of course there was congressional testimony as to how the Rockefeller family and Standard Oil were operating and making fortunes off both sides during World War II.

 REDDEN: Who else is involved in this conspiracy?

 HOROWITZ: Well, there's the Merck Pharmaceutical Company. Their president, George W. Merck, was America's biological weapons industry director during World War II. He was personally appointed by President Roosevelt and Secretary of War Stimson -

 REDDEN: And he had his own private pharmaceutical company -

 HOROWITZ: And had a very well established private company called the Merck Pharmaceutical Company. And he and his company received the lion's share of the Nazi war chest.

When Hitler and Martin Bormann knew they were going to lose the war, they invested their treasury in 750 corporations to produce a monopoly over the world's pharmaceutical and chemical industries. Hitler and Bormann invested heavily in Merck and other pharmaceutical companies. They not only knew that would be a good way to make money as a future investment, but they also knew that, given the Holocaust, you can mass exterminate people through chemicals, gasses and pharmaceuticals. You can take people out untraceably that way.

So that was the target and primary objective for the rise of the Fourth Reich.

 REDDEN: The Fourth Reich?

 HOROWITZ: Exactly. That's what's going on today. The Nazis planned for it, they even had a term for it - "neue Ordnung," which means New Order, New World Order. This today, this New World Order, is the rise of the Fourth Reich. This is precisely what they envisioned and then carried out.

 REDDEN: On a global scale?

 HOROWITZ: That's exactly what it is.

 REDDEN: And the goal of the Fourth Reich is population control?

 HOROWITZ: That, and genocide.

 REDDEN: Who are they targeting for genocide?

 HOROWITZ: The populations that have traditionally been targeted for genocide. I have a series of slides taken just weeks ago from the Denver Airport. There's a capstone, a dedication stone in the main terminal building of the Denver Airport dedicated to the New World Airport Commission by the Freemasons. And there's a big mural - a huge, beautiful, colorful mural - that is dedicated to the extinct species. And in the foreground, against the horrific backdrop of flames and destruction, there are three open coffins.

 REDDEN: This is at the Denver Airport?

 HOROWITZ: Yes. In the left hand coffin is a beautiful black woman dressed in native African attire representing the Black people of the world. In the center is a beautiful Native North American woman representing the Indians. And in the right, there's a beautiful blond-haired, likely blue-eyed woman, lying on an American quilt, clenching a Star of David and a Bible with a cross to her chest, representing the Jews and the Christians. So those are the people that are, you know, the agenda is to take them out. And, in fact, the United States quilt is very significant because the depopulation agenda put forth by the Rockefellers and their friends is to reduce the United State's population by half, back to 1940's levels.

And in the new book Healing Codes of the B iblical Apocalypse we reprinted the full page advertisement to the world's wealthiest military-medical-industrialists on the Council of Foreign Relations to reduce the U.S. population which currently stands at 275 million down to 140 million, or about its size in the 1940s. So that's one out of every two Americans are targeted to go. And then you're looking at, why Christians and why Jews? Well again, if absolute power corrupts absolutely, and now you get into the realm of Satanism and Satanic and evil, pure evil, of course you would want to take out the people who hold God very close to their heart. And that's exactly what this woman is doing. She's clutching to her heart the Star of David and the cross. The Godly people. The Jews got God's first covenant with Abraham, then the Christians got the blood covenant with Jesus.

 REDDEN: Do you see the Masons as part of the conspiracy.

 HOROWITZ: Oh yeah, absolutely. That's well proven in the book "Healing Codes of the Biblical Apocalypse."

 REDDEN: I think when people think of Masons they think of some small fraternal lodge, like the Shriners or something like that.

 HOROWITZ: Right, that's exactly right. And 99.99 percent of Masons have no clue what they're really up to at the highest levels. When you get to the highest levels, you see, they give you knowledge, increased knowledge at every higher degree of Freemason that you achieve. And it's not until you get beyond the 33rd degree, where you get the highest indoctrination into what's called the Ancient Arcana, that's the ancient sacred knowledge - we lay out much of that in the book Healing Codes of the Biblical Apocalypse - and then we show you, these are the devil-doers who are running this planet. They've been running this planet for centuries.

 REDDEN: How does a person become that high in the Masonic organization?

 HOROWITZ: I think bloodlines. You've got to be major royalty, major royalty, ideally a descendent or you've got to be somebody who is very close to the royalty, the major bloodlines.

 REDDEN: One question. If there's an attempt underway to reduce the population of the planet, why isn't it going down?

 HOROWITZ: It's more scriptural than anything else. God said you should populate the whole earth, and people have been doing it for awhile. But look at countries like those in Africa, Third World nations that have been heavily targeted with HIV/AIDS. And consider that 73 percent of HIV/AIDS patients in America today are Black or Hispanic, after 55 percent of gay men in America are already dead. Are you seeing depopulation specifically targeting minority groups now? Of course. It's happening right now.

I think that the answer is, they don't want to totally eliminate populations completely, just certain populations. And isn't it, from their perspective, wonderful? They've got a covert depopulation agenda that nobody's picked up on yet. It's ideally what they want to produce.

I don't think they're just doing for the money. I think there's a Satanic or evil ideology, because Nixon himself said, referring to the Rockefellers, President Nixon said it's not about money for these people, it's about power.

People who are scripturally-oriented understand that absolute power corrupts absolutely, so these people get very, very evil when they get to that highest level. Now, if you're at that highest level, and now you have control over the population and you have control over the money and the money flow and how it works, and you've ultimately created your goal and you've fulfilled your objective to have a One World Government and a One World Bank, a One World Peacekeeping Force - the U.N. - a One World Economy, One World Currency, virtually, One World Court, and at the end of that sequence, it's kind of like playing the game Monopoly.

At the end of the Monopoly game, what do you do? One person wins, they own all of the real estate, they own all of the assets, they've wiped all the other players out and the game is over. You put away in your closet. But you don't do that on planet earth. The person who wins at the end of that Monopoly game, they get a chance then to rearrange the board. And that's precisely what you've seen in the last year. You've seen not the biggest fish eating the biggest fish in international commerce, you have seen the mega-whales eating the mega-whales in these mega-mergers. So, ultimately, all these little companies that you don't recognize are producing your vitamins or your this or that, and you don't understand they're a subsidiary of a major conglomerate. Today a Warner Lambert or Glaxo Wellcom, all of these huge, huge corporations own all the little fish. They buy them out. So, again, now the game board gets to be changed if they desire, and apparently that's what they desire. That's their agenda, you can see it.

And the second thing is, they get a chance to eliminate the players that they don't want to play with anymore.

 REDDEN: I've been following the news stories on the flu for a couple of months now, the press coverage over the Internet - all the main wire services, AP, Reuters - and there was actually some coverage about crowded hospital rooms, some updating on the epidemic without ever using the word epidemic. But then, around the beginning of January, it just stopped. It was like somebody flipped a switch and the news coverage stopped. Like the word came down from somebody.

 HOROWITZ: That's exactly what happens. It's Central Intelligence. It's real well known.

 REDDEN: What do they do, make a phone call? Send a fax out?

 HOROWITZ: Yes. Central Intelligence puts out a list of the top newsworthy items that are to be covered that day by the mainstream press. I mean, it doesn't take rocket scientist to see it. The fact of the matter is, if allegedly you have three independent main news networks plus CNN, how independent are they if they all repeat virtually the same story using the same clippings in close to the same order? They modify that a little bit so that the ignorant masses don't catch on too much, but basically that alone should tip you off. And of course when you read who's in charge of these organizations and how they fit into the Illuminati and the Council on Foreign Relations, you begin to say, holy smoke, no wonder.

When you look at who controls the mainstream media - we list the members of the Council on Foreign Relations in the new book Healing Codes of the Biblical Apocalypse in the appendix. With a few exceptions, we've got the whole list. And you see that Time and Newsweek and the New York Times are totally infiltrated, totally controlled by its editors, associate editors, managers, chief commentators and columnists who are part of the power elite. These people will not do anything to violate their position because, at minimum, their fame and fortune and the money that they're bringing home to feed their own families is more important than turning up a notch their values and ethics and morals. So they will, even the politicians on Capitol Hill, the standard practice is Hear No Evil, See No Evil, Speak No Evil. Don't tell me, I don't want to know.

There's so many important other news stories that never make it. As somebody who has not only a masters in media sciences, but on top of that I've been in the real world, working with the media, working with corporations - I'll give you an example.

PR News wire service is one of the largest if not the largest fee-for news agencies in America. That is, if you're a corporation and you want to put out a news item about your product, that is the company you go through. Now, I have been a subscriber and on at least two occasions, probably three or more, I personally have had my news stories suppressed. I have not been treated fairly, by even that allegedly independent pay-for subscription news service. What happens is, I will submit a story, their assistant or associate editors will take the story, they'll put it in, then, if they have any questions about whether it's acceptable to be put on the wire services, they'll pass it by their editors or their attorneys, and if it says anything whatsoever that might be construed as slanderous they won't ask you, what is your documentation to support this claim? They just simply will not let it, no matter how much you pay them, they'll say we're returning your money. We're not running this story. Now is that the way a free press should operate? Or would it be better to say, well, you make a very inflammatory claim here, could I please see the document upon which this claim is based? That would a free press, but it doesn't work that way. 

REDDEN: Well, right. 

HOROWITZ: It just amazes me. The other thing that I've seen, the stuff that's constantly coming across my desk that the mainstream hasn't caught on, it's actually a great tribute to Joseph Gobbels and the Nazi psychiatrists who worked to perfect it, the use of mind control through media. Propaganda. And that's what's going on today.

 REDDEN: What started you down this path? How did you come to pursue all of the things you've been working on over the years?

 HOROWITZ: Hmmm. Well, gee, that's like asking a chicken where the first egg came from. How far do you want me to go back? In terms of, when did I get started in which area?

 REDDEN: Well, you were in a prestigious college but you didn't follow the career path that everyone else did.

 HOROWITZ: I guess I was always a trouble-maker, always questioning my teachers. I became that way when I was, well, let's see, I think the first time it was really noticeable to me was when I was in Tufts Dental School. I had already become somewhat of a non-conformist. I had been someone who was always told they would never amount to anything by all of my authority figures. Not so much my father, because my father's philosophy was that I could do anything I put my mind to. Of all the blessings that my father gave me, I think that was one of the principle ones because I've lived by that and I believe that for children today, that they've can produce miracles. That they can do anything they put their minds to.

But when I was in high school and I took my intelligence tests - and I did very poorly on those and I was always a poor tester - my counsellor told me that I would never amount to anything, at best I should be a computer punch card operator. And then, my attitude was, given what my father taught me, my attitude against those authorities in academia by the way became, I'll show you. And then I got to college and I didn't really do that well first year out. And I was in pre-med and I had my counsellor tell me to drop out because I would never get anywhere. I would never get to dental school, never get to medical school. And again I took the attitude, I'll show you.

And then by miracles and tremendous blessings - I always had to work really hard, though, and I did work hard - I got terrific grades and just turned the whole thing around. I got into Tufts University School of Dental Medicine, then I got an invitation to go to Harvard. I turned Harvard down to go to what is considered today to be the world's top dental research training program, at the University of Rochester. It's called the Eastland Dental Center. I spent a year there. I almost graduated with my masters of science degree, but I hated Rochester and wanted to back to Boston. I was homesick. I went back to Boston and joined the faculty at Harvard in medicine, and then after working on the faculty there for a year, doing research primarily, then I was told by my department chairperson that I should go to finish my masters in public health. I had finished a dental public health certification program while I was on the faculty, and then he suggested strongly I go back and focus on behavioral science and media, for health education and health promotion and persuasion technologies research at the School of Public Health.

So there I went. I studies with people like Gerald Lesser, the guy who created the children's television workshop, Ron Slaby who did the initial research, much of it, in aggression in childrens' television, Larry Green who was the Surgeon General of the United States, he was one of my professors. Terrific, terrific people that I studied under. And again, at that point, Larry Green, I just called him on some of his stuff I didn't agree with. Larry Green, you know, he was Surgeon General of the United States under Carter. He and I were on a first name basis. And I said, Larry, you know, and it was always in relation to spirituality. I said, you can talk about such and such and such and such, but unless you bring God into the equation, your public health protocol is far from complete. We had those kinds of discussions.

 REDDEN: But what started you looking into what you admit are conspiracy theories?

 HOROWITZ: In 1989 I became the chief professional advisor for the largest dental medical supply company in the world, the Henry Shine Corporation out of Port Washington, New York. The next year, in 1990, the media began reporting on the case of Dr. David Acer, the New York dentist who allegedly infected his patients with the AIDS virus. I was assigned by the CEO to develop educational literature because at the time, remember, the media was, like, spreading fear, a phobia about getting AIDS in the doctor's office.

 REDDEN: Right. A crazy dentist gave his patients AIDS by cutting himself and bleeding into their mouths.

 HOROWITZ: The authorities never admitted that. They never said that. To this date, they maintain that that case is quote an unsolvable mystery unquote.

 REDDEN: But that was the explanation -

 HOROWITZ: That was one of the explanations. There were a number of them, and they confused the whole case. When I began reviewing the scientific documents on the case, I discovered a government cover-up. The truth was, the dentist believed he was dying from a virus the government created. They covered that up. In fact, he was a scientifically-trained military dentist for much of his career. And he held in his possession some horrifying documents, including a 1970 Department of Defense appropriations request for $10 million for a five-year study to develop viruses that were functionally and descriptively to what the AIDS virus is and does today.

I wrote an article on the case for the December 1995 issue of the British Dental Journal, an article called Murder and Cover-Up Could Explain the Florida Dental AIDS Tragedy. Then I wrote a book about the case called Deadly Innocence: The Kimberly Bergalis Case. It's an excellent book. It's out of press right now, but we have the audio tape for anybody who's really interested.

The documents I uncovered while researching the article and book led to my next book, Emerging Viruses, AIDS and Ebola. I started with the 1969 Defense Department appropriation and ultimately found the United States government contracts under which numerous AIDS-like and Ebola-like viruses were bio-engineered by the Army's sixth top biological weapons contracting firm, called Warton Bionetics, a subsidiary of Litton Industries, which was linked, tied to the Nixon Administration. And it was under Nixon that Henry Kissinger was the national security advisor who virtually ordered the development of these viruses, apparently for depopulation and population control, covert operations and biological warfare. Now all of that, everything that I just said, is meticulously documented either out of congressional records or reputable publications, including your top mainstream publishing companies.

 REDDEN: Now, when I first became aware of you was several years ago when I saw you speak at a local Preparedness Expo. The media considers those to be run by right-wing extremists and appeal to white supremacist militia types. How did you find those people to be?

 HOROWITZ: Well, I think those people are great, most of them. Certainly you'll find racists and anti-Semites among Jews and Blacks, and the left wing. But the vast majority of those people are wonderful, fine people. And it's one of the many groups that I speak to. I'm blessed to be able to go into the far right, the far left, my support comes from the complete spectrum of socio-economic-political-religious groups. I look at the label as just that. Far right, what does that mean to who? And why was it put out to begin with? Why is it important to label people? People label me a variety of different things. Who's labeling me, and why? That's a more important question than the label itself.

Far right, far left. That's part of a hoax, you see. As long as you can separate far right from far left, Democrat from Republican, rich versus poor, Black versus White, gay versus straight, HIV positive versus not, Jew versus gentile, Christian versus Muslim, you can continue to manipulate the sheeple and direct their - small populations are easier to direct and move, and that's what's being done. So you have to be an idiot to fall into that trap. Not necessarily an idiot, you have to really be not waking up to what's most obvious. I mean, there's so much out there for people to read and understand about what's really happening, you have to be, I guess idiot is not the correct word. I apologize for that.

Really, what I like to call it, is brain-washed mind control slaves. Which, unfortunately, the mass of the people are. And they don't even know it.

My father was involved politics in the state of New Jersey. My roommate from college is Robert Torecelli, the Senator from New Jersey. I know who these people are, I know how they play. They kill people. You don't play ball right, with the right person, you're dead. And for somebody who's operating outside of the Kingdom of Heaven, if you don't give your life over to God and you are operating in that realm, they will manipulate you for the rest of your life. That's how Satan manipulates. And so, if you're going to play those game, you get involved and then, you know, you get corrupted, you get coerced. And one step leads to another leads to another leads to another, and ultimately you have a puppet like Clinton up there with so much dirt and baggage - and this whole thing with Monica Lewinski, for example, that was a complete distraction. If the public knew President Clinton's dealings with drugs, and his relationship to the Bush family, and his dealings with the CIA and Oliver North in the Mena airport incident. That Monica Lewinski thing was virtually a great distraction off of the big truth, which is you're dealing with an inside player who is as corrupt as sin. He's not any different from any other Republican out there.

 REDDEN: That's obvious.

 HOROWITZ: But there is an agenda you have to understand. It's very well articulated in The Report From Iron Mountain. And in The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. It's very well articulated. That report, like The Report From Iron Mountain, that too was considered a hoax and demonized. That specific report talks about how at this time in history, before the New World Order is formed, what would be required is to take out all peoples' trust in their governments, and that is precisely the agenda you see unfolding here.

 REDDEN: Well, what can anyone do to fight such a large conspiracy?

 HOROWITZ: That's what my most recent work is all about. I've done my exposes. I've done my medical, pharmaceutical exposes where I unearth the garbage. What I'm currently doing is celebrating the great healings, the things that people can do for themselves.

That's what the Healing Celebration events are about. They let you know the risks, who these people are and what they're doing, and the facts of that, of American medicine and the truth of that, the national pharmaceutical chemical cartels. Once you know the truth of what they're up to, what their ideology is, how they've been manipulating things all these years - now you're more aware of the risks, and you can avoid risks. Now, once you've avoided risks, what are you actually going to do for yourself to protect yourself against the current and coming plagues? And that is a lot of good news. There's a tremendous, tremendous amount of great news that needs to be heralded, so that's what I'm focusing on now.

 REDDEN: And what are you telling people to do?

 HOROWITZ: There are five critical steps. Everyone should do the first three, the last two would be particularly important for people who are sick with chronic illnesses.

The first step is detoxification, because we've all virtually eaten of Babylon's harvest, we've all eaten the garbage that comes from Monsanto and Dow Chemical and Archer Daniel and all their genetically engineered foods and the chemicals and the fluorides and the chlorines, you know, just all of this stuff that we've been putting into our bodies that's literally toxic wastes. So we need to detox.

Step two is deacidification, to change your body's chemistry, making it more alkaline. It's only in the acid state that your body gets into that causes the growth of bacteria, viruses, fungus, molds, and cancer, cancer cells. They cannot grow in an environment, a terrain, that is more alkaline. And what causes your body chemistry to go acidic and become a breeding ground for the bacterial and infectious agents? The main lifestyle risks are caffeine, nicotine, sugar, refined carbohydrates, alcohol, pharmaceuticals - virtually all of them, including antibiotics. And then, red meats. That, plus stress, are the seven factors that cause your body chemistry to become more acidic. So you want to eliminate those or reduce them as much as possible.

And then that, along with some nutrients, water - like you saw when I sat down, I took this lemon and squeezed this lemon into this water. The reason I did that is because by doing that, because the lemon has a lot of calcium in it, it turns to calcium hydroxide in drinking water. That's alkalising. It raises the PH of that water from about 7 to about 8. So now I'm drinking PH 8 water instead of PH 7 water. That's step two, deacidification.

So step three, then, is boosting your immune system in every way possible. In other words, step one is detoxification, step two is deacidification, and now you can go out and spend your money effectively with your vitamins and your minerals and your supplements. You can get the value out of co-enzymes, you know. You can get the value out of the olive leaf extract. Out of the variety of other vital nutrients and botanicals. There's a whole revolution in that health science.

People think that all they have to do is take those supplements, but if they're throwing those supplements into an intoxicated terrain and an acidified terrain, it's a waste of your dollar. It's so much less expensive to go through an easy detoxification program using fresh squeezed lemonade that you make with maple syrup and fresh squeezed lemons and cayenne pepper. That's one of the recommendations that we do, the old Stanley Burrough's Master Cleanser type of things.

It's also extremely beneficial when you're talking about this upper respiratory infection, because particularly those people who have low body temperatures with this upper respiratory infection. You can raise your body temperature with the hot cayenne pepper. Cayenne just happens to be one of the most alkalising agents you can put in your body. So you've really done to things. You've detoxed and deacidified all in one step.

Now, let me finish on step three. We've just talked about nutritional supplements and nutrition a little bit, but besides the physical there's mental, emotion, social, environmental and, above all, spiritual changes that people need to make to really prepare their temples of God to withstand the plagues.

So that's step three. Then, if you're sick and ailing, you go on to steps four and five.

Steps four and five have both been heavily suppressed by the same Rockefeller-directed international banksters, blood banksters and medical monopolists. They are oxygenation therapies and bioelectric therapies.

 REDDEN: Those are both new to me.

 HOROWITZ: They're new to virtually everybody because of the suppression of the entire fields. I have in possession, for example, a paper that was published in the Journal of Blood, I think it was 1991, by Poitz and his colleagues, for the American Hematology Society, and it was in the very prestigious medical journal, Blood. Now Poitz is one of the doctors I exposed royally in the book Emerging Viruses, AIDS and Ebola. And what is he investigating here and showing works terrifically? The oxygenation of the blood to clean up the blood of the AIDS virus.

Now that was 1991. Colleagues of mine have shown me the documents, scientific documentation that said that knowledge was not available in 81, not 71. but even decades before that they knew how effective oxygen was in decontaminating the blood, inexpensively. So now here you have a virtual Rockefeller-related researcher publishing in the most prestigious medical journal, and to this day do you think they're cleaning the blood of Hepatitis C and Hepatitis B and AIDS virus completely? No, they're still not, because they're still not using oxygenation technologies to clean the blood up.

So oxygenation can be not only used for that, in a public health sense, but also by individuals. There are a number of products that are available. There's oxygen bars. I understand that Woody Harrelson just opened up an oxygen bar, I think it was in Las Vegas or somewhere else. There's a product called Body Oxygen, which is one of the products that I have developed. It's an excellent product. What it does is, what most people who are involved in oxygen treatment use 35 percent of food grade hydrogen peroxide, between 4 and 24 drops in an 8-ounce glass of water. That oxygenates the water. But the problem is, it's really caustic to touch. It burns you skin. And it tastes horrible. If you drink it, it's horrible. What we did is, we put it into a cold press, organic aloe vera and then we added additional immune boosters, so you're getting your oxygen, you're getting your aloe, which is great for your gut, and your getting hawthorne berry, ginko and St. Johns Wart. which is excellent for immunity.

 REDDEN: And it raises the level of oxygen in the blood?

 HOROWITZ: Exactly. You want to raise your blood oxygen levels. And you can measure that. That is measurable. And so, you know, it's a tragedy, again, we don't even think about some of these things. When this planet was first made, there was a 38 percent oxygen level, and that's one of the reasons why people were living so long. Now, in cities there's about an 18, 19 percent level. Before World War II there was about a 28 percent level. So, suddenly we realize that our own pollution, again, it goes back to the Rockefellers and their friends.

Of course, there are simple ways to get more oxygen delivered into your body, like exercise. And there's medical ozonization, hyperbolic chamber oxygenation, all those things have been proven profoundly effective against a host of illnesses.

And finally there's bioelectric therapies. In the Healing Celebrations were present people from around the country who have some of the most advances science in the field of bioelectrics. When you think about, for example, Jesus' healing ministry, and how God heals, suddenly you enter the realm of electro-magnetics. That's really how it happens. That's God's technology.

For example, the Bible tells us the world, the universe was created in six days through the spoken word. And what is the word? Words are sound. Sound is electro-magnetic frequencies. And so, one of the things that we are heavily involved in is looking at the relationship between ancient scriptural healing and the most advanced science in the area of bioelectrics, resonant technologies for healing, now you're getting into electro-medicine. We're going far beyond electro-acupuncture now, we're talking about technology based on the brilliant work of the last century's genius, Nikola Tesla. It wasn't Einstein.

And then you're looking at sound and color and light therapies, and how come they're effective. We're unraveling those mysteries now and there's tremendous revelations that we've gotten. Even the highest-level Nobel Prize winners in medicine in the last decade have proven some profound things about how DNA functions as an electro-magnetic receiver and transmitter that literally delivers God's healing vibration to all the cells and tissues. These are now medically proven facts.

 REDDEN: One final question. The name of your company is Tetrahedron. What does that mean?

 HOROWITZ: A tetrahedron is a four-sided equilateral structure that resembles a pyramid. It's the most stable structure in the known universe. When the right wingers see it on my stuff, they look at me suspiciously and say, "You're not one of those New Agers, are you?"