David Irving, Another False Prophet (?)
Newly published emails between the renowned British Historian and author Salvador Astucia reveal that the "pro-Hitler" Irving may in truth be a Zionist Agent.
https://web.archive.org/web/20040212175713/http://jfkmontreal.com/d_irving_emails.htm
By Salvador Astucia , July 9, 2002
(enhanced version of article originally dated July 5, 2002, also revised on July 8.)
In April of this year, I published a book entitled [2002] Opium Lords - Israel, The Golden Triangle and the Kennedy Assassination by Salvador Astucia. Because of the controversial nature of the book’s content I used the pseudonym Salvador Astucia. I did so because I have to earn a living in a Jewish-dominated business world. I have already learned that using one’s real name when speaking truthfully about Israel can bring economic disaster.
In OPIUM LORDS, I asserted that Israel and other Jewish political forces sponsored the murder of President Kennedy because:
In a nutshell: David Irving invited me, as author of OPIUM LORDS, to give a one hour lecture at his Labor Day Real History Conference in Cincinnati, Ohio, but has now disinvited me on the basis that he can’t have "anti-Zionism" or "anti-Semitism" at the conference.
Why did Irving first invite me, then disinvite me? My surmise is that, when Irving first read my book on the web, he skimmed it too quickly. Later, when I sent him the book in printed format, he read it more thoroughly, became alarmed at its content, and then went about trying to find a pretext to cancel my appearance.
There are several reasons why Mr. Irving may have objected to the book after a closer read. Firstly, the last chapter of OPIUM LORDS (Chapter 14) discusses 9-11 and cites articles on that topic written by independent researcher Carol Valentine. Mr. Irving indicated in our first telephone conversation that he did not care for Valentine, although he did not challenge any facts she has presented on any topic which she has documented.
Secondly, Chapter 14 contradicts much of what Irving plans to discuss about 9-11 at the upcoming Real History Conference. The following text is on his website (July 9, 2002) and it generally supports the government’s official cover story about 9-11:
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Who was really behind [the 9-11 attacks]? Why did they do it? Come to that, why did the Twin Towers collapse so swiftly? And what about those Arabic letters that were found? Has the FBI withheld the first page, and if so why? We hear an expert on the Arabic language tells us what is really to be learned of the attacks from those pages, and of Osama bin Laden's concerns as revealed in those videos. |
David Irving’s description of 9-11 discussions planned for the Real History Conference (per his website) http://www.fpp.co.uk/cinc/2002/flier1/index.html
Chapter 14 of OPIUM LORDS provides a completely different explanation of 9-11 than does Irving et al. In fact, I questioned the authenticity of the Bin Laden videos and drew comparisons between 9-11 versus the Kennedy assassination and the Vietnam War versus the war in Afghanistan. The following is an excerpt from Chapter 14 of OPIUM LORDS:
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Independent investigator Carol Valentine has written several persuasive articles concluding that the suicide plane crashes on September 11, 2001 were sponsored by Israel with assistance from the US military. Her premise—as I interpret it—is based on two key points. First of all, the airspace over New York City and Washington, DC was intentionally left unprotected by the military agency tasked to protect it. That group is the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD). Secondly, the suicide jets were controlled by "advanced robotics and remote-control technology, not hijackers." NORAD has had this capability since 1959. Valentine wrote in great detail how NORAD has the capability to track planes in distress and take appropriate actions to defend US airspace from foreign aircraft or from aircraft within the US. In fact, NORAD had at its disposal a number of US Air Force General Dynamics F-106 Delta Dart fighter aircraft configured to be remotely flown into combat as early as 1959 under the auspices of a program known as SAGE. Another example of remote control technology is a jet, made by Northrop Grumman, called the Global Hawk. This jet has a wingspan of a Boeing 737 and has flown unmanned across the Pacific Ocean. Valentine further observed that President Bush and Robert Ayling—a former official with British Airways—both claimed that such a technology was a thing of the future. The two men made carefully prepared public statements which envisioned remote-control capabilities as a lofty goal to be achieved in years to come. In fact, President Bush was quoted in the New York Times offering to give grants to airlines to pay for "new technology, probably far in the future, allowing air traffic controllers to land distressed planes by remote control." Both men were obviously deceiving the public. Valentine compared NORAD’s lack of reaction on September 11thto its rapid response to the LearJet carrying golfer Payne Stewart and several companions on October 25, 1999. With Stewart’s ill-fated flight—which was en route from Orlando to Dallas, NORAD’s reaction was fast. One or more US Air Force fighter jets were launched to control the situation shortly after air traffic controllers knew something was wrong. On September 11th, NORAD apparently did nothing because no jets were launched—at least no evidence has been presented indicating that NORAD jets were launched. Based on prior emergencies, there was more than enough time for NORAD to send jets to control the situation. But how could Israel coerce the US military into committing such an act of treason? One word: OPIUM! History repeats itself. This is what was done when President Kennedy was assassinated. In exchange for helping the Jews kill Kennedy, the military and organized crime were given a war in Southeast Asia in an area where growing opium poppies was big business. Afghanistan and Pakistan are two major producers of opium today. A pact was apparently made between Israeli planners, US generals, and elements of organized crime stipulating that America would wage a war against Afghanistan in retaliation for the self-inflicted September 11th attacks. Osama bin Laden would be blamed, his Al-Queda group would be labeled terrorists, and America would wage war against Afghanistan for harboring these terrorists. US forces would drive out the Taliban, who successfully banned the growing of opium poppies in Afghanistan, and replace them with the Northern Alliance who would legalize opium production. Windfall profits would be shared by the participants from the illicit sale of opium and its derivative narcotics (namely heroin). The wealthy interests of the Western nations would also share in the illicit drug money as they have done for over a century. It’s the same technique used in the Kennedy assassination. Everyone would benefit except the American people and the [9-11] victims and their families. Israel would use the "terrorist" attacks as a pretext to intensify the war against Palestinians. Clearly a cover story was written and distributed to the Western news media prior to the attack. To achieve such a vast conspiracy, the plan must have been announced by the president of the World Jewish Congress. That individual is presently Edgar Bronfman, son of the late Sam Bronfman (reference Chapter 8). The junior Bronfman followed the path of Joseph Caiaphas, high priest of the Sanhedrin who sanctioned the plot to kill Jesus. Bronfman also followed the path of Nahum Goldmann, who apparently sanctioned the plot to kill President Kennedy. Osama bin Laden was made the patsy like Lee Harvey Oswald was years earlier in the Kennedy assassination. The US government provided a video of bin Laden taking credit for the attacks in a secret meetings. While that may seem authentic, we should remember that the US government produced phony pictures of Oswald holding the alleged murder weapon (Mannlicher-Carcano rifle) in the backyard of his Dallas apartment in 1963 (Chapter 6). We also know that the CIA provided the Warren Commission with a fake photograph of Oswald at the Cuban Embassy in Mexico City. The photograph supported the false claim that Oswald had applied for a visa to Cuba. The Warren Commission used the alleged trip to Mexico City as further proof that Oswald was a communist (Chapter 6). This is the same old story, but most of the actors changed.
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(Salvador Astucia, OPIUM LORDS, pp. 324 - 326)
Mr. Irving is planning to push the government’s 9-11 cover story on revisionists but OPIUM LORDS completely contradicts him and the other scheduled speakers. Once he and his handlers read Chapter 14, they decided I was more of a liability than an asset. Consequently, he was forced to cancel my invitation.
For those who trust David Irving, this must be difficult to believe. But I have supporting evidence. I have provided a summary of our phone conversations, written communiqués, and copies of 25 email exchanges for your review. You can see Irving bobbing and weaving and contradicting himself in one email after another.
The following is a summarized chronology of events.
April 17, 2002 (see Email # 1)
I send emails to various websites requesting that they link with my site which contained an online book of Opium Lords. David Irving was one of the recipients of my emails.
April 18, 2002 (see Email # 2)
I receive an email from Mr. Irving expressing interest in my book and promising to look at it the following week.
April 18, 2002 (see Email # 3)
I immediately thank him. Because he expressed concern over Salvador Astucia’s command of the English language, I tell Mr. Irving that I was born and raised in the USA, and divulged my real name, address, and phone number. I requested that he not make that information public.
May 31, 2002 (see Email # 4)
I receive tentative invitation from Mr. Irving to speak at the Real History Conference on Labor Day weekend. He expressed concern over my use of a pseudonym and requested that I phone him to discuss the matter.
Phone call, May 31, 2002
I place a telephone call to Mr. Irving immediately, we chat for several minutes. I explain that I did not use my real name because I had to earn a living in a Jewish controlled business environment. I further explain that I do not wish to suffer economic hardship for publicly criticizing Jewish political interests.
I felt that, of all people, David Irving would understand my reasoning, considering that Irving has claimed in court his own career as a writer has been virtually destroyed by the Jewish supremacy movement.
Nevertheless, I make a compromise with him. I tell him that he may use my real name to promote his event.
Mr. Irving then shifts to the topic of my book.
"What was your source?" he asked.
This seemed like an odd question for an historian to ask. The online version of OPIUM LORDS, and the paper version, both contain an extensive bibliography and 28 pages of endnotes. Why would Mr. Irving ask such a rudimentary question when he already had the answer at his fingertips? Upon reflection, however, I believe he was asking me to divulge the name of a person who fed me the information that solved the mystery of the Kennedy assassination. Irving likely thought that no one could figure it out without being advised by someone very close to the parties involved.
The plain truth is I solved it myself. I bounced ideas off of a few knowledgeable people to ensure that my research matched historical events. But it was essentially a one man show. Nobody fed me information.
To the best of my recollection, this is how I answered Mr. Irving’s question about my sources:
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[Salvador:] My source? I used several books, many of them very rare ones. I followed the research of Jim Garrison and his book, On the Trail of the Assassins, because I believe he uncovered a lot of important information that seems believable and logical. Generally though, I tried to stay away from assassination books because so many of the researchers are tainted and work for the same forces who sponsored Kennedy’s murder. I mainly used history and biographical books. I found a good rare book, Israel Diary, by Bernard Bloomfield, brother of Louis Bloomfield, the man I believe engineered the assassination—although he didn’t issue the order to kill Kennedy. It was bigger than him. Israel Diary provided a good profile of Louis Bloomfield.
I suppose the turning point in my research came from another rare book, Contrabandista, by Evert Clark and Nicholas Horrock. Another good book is The Great Heroin Coup by Henrik Krüger. They both tell about the French Corsican assassins who worked for heroin kingpin Auguste Joseph Ricord. They also tell about Nixon’s war on drugs which was likely the real reason he was driven from office. Of the two books, I think Contrabandista is a better source, particularly regarding Nixon’s fate. Although Contrabandista was written by two journalists—and I don’t trust journalists as a rule—it was published in 1973, and Nixon was still in office at that time. A huge anti-Nixon propaganda campaign began after Nixon left office in the summer of 1974. The Great Heroin Coup was written in 1976 and it is filled with anti-Nixon rhetoric.
[Irving interjected:] Yes, the Jews really did a number on Nixon.
[Salvador:] Definitely. Anyway, The Great Heroin Coup is less reliable, in my view, although it still has good information. But Contrabandista is a better source because it was written while Nixon was still in office. Consequently, the authors provided unbiased treatment of his war on drugs. Nixon was leading a serious war on drugs which included the arrest, extradition from Paraguay, trial, and conviction of Ricord. Under Nixon’s order, Lucien Sarti—the man who shot Kennedy in the head—was tracked down by police in Mexico City and shot and killed after resisting arrest for attempting to smuggle drugs into the United States.
Nixon did other things to upset the powers that be, like opening relations with China, establishing détente with the Soviet Union, withdrawing American forces from Vietnam, and ending the draft.
Contrabandista, in particular, helped me identify the names of theassassins. They were the bodyguards and lieutenants of Auguste Joseph Ricord (the heroin kingpin). That book, combined with an interview with drug trafficker Christian David—which appeared in Nigel Turner’s documentary, The Men Who Killed Kennedy—really nailed down the identities of the assassins. Both sources corroborated each other.
Once I realized Ricord’s heroin cartel was involved, then I read The Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia by Alfred McCoy. It gave me a good background about opium smuggling in the Golden Triangle and the history of Opium Wars against China by the Western powers.
Of course I used many other sources, which are listed in the bibliography and endnotes, but those are the main ones. |
Mr. Irving also expresses an interest in Jack "Rubenstein" (aka, Ruby) and asks what was his role in the conspiracy. I explained that the House Select Committee on Assassinations linked Ruby to Meyer Lansky (per Encyclopedia Britannica: Lansky) and that Ruby had been identified by an eye-witness as driving a pick-up truck and dropping off a young man with a rifle who walked towards the "grassy knoll" about an hour before the assassination. I further stated that Meyer Lanksy helped recruit the French Corsican assassins and set up a deal with the US Government wherein the American Mafia would use opium produced in Southeast Asia for heroin production in exchange for killing Kennedy. I noted that Lansky of course was Jewish, as was Ruby, which supports my thesis that JFK’s death was ultimately the result of a Jewish conspiracy. Mr. Irving concurred that my reasoning made sense.
Irving then explains that the conference theme would be 9-11 as well as history. I asked if he had read any of Carol Valentine’s articles on 9-11.
I think we all recognize that the tone of a person’s voice, as well as the words used, communicate meaning. Although this was the first time I had spoken to David Irving, up to now, the tone of his voice was pleasant and well-modulated. But at the mention of the name "Carol Valentine," Irving’s voice tone changed remarkably. The most apt word I can think of to describe his tone while speaking about her is "snarl."
Irving said he viewed Valentine as a "radical" and did not want her to speak. He further stated that he was trying to get officials from the FBI to attend, in order to tell their side of the story, but none would show up if Valentine was on the program. I made the following comment in defense of Valentine:
"Well, I’m not trying to tell you who to invite to your event, but Carol Valentine has written some good articles about 9-11, particularly regarding NORAD (North American Aerospace Defense Command) and how they failed to protect airspace over New York City and the Pentagon on September 11th."
"We’re trying to get some people from NORAD to attend as well," he replied. "I read the stuff she sends around," referring back to Valentine, "but it’s a bit too extreme for me, and again, if I invite her, then no one from the other side will want to attend."
Mr. Irving was not directly critical of statements written by Valentine per se. He never openly accused her of being deceitful or spreading information that was untrue. His criticism was conveyed more by his tone of voice than actual words spoken. It was clear that he did not like her. There is no question in my mind about that.
Regarding the Real History Conference, Mr. Irving stated that my expenses would be paid. He further requested that I email him a list of visual aids I might need, a preferred speaking time, and a list of "discussion threads." In response to his suggestion about visual aids, I mentioned that I might want to show the Zapruder film and give an analysis. He seemed to like that.
Mr. Irving concluded the conversation by stating that I should think about things for a few days and email him the requested information as soon as possible.
June 3, 2002 (see Email # 5)
I send Mr. Irving an email officially accepting his invitation to speak. I include the information he requested (preferred speaking time, visual aids, and list of discussion threads). In addition, I request his mailing address in Florida so I can send him a copy of the book.
June 3, 2002 (see Email # 6)
Irving approves terms of speaking agreement, and gives me his mailing address in Florida so I can send him a copy of the book, OPIUM LORDS.
Prior to this, Irving had access to OPIUM LORDS via my webpage. I wanted him to have a copy of the book because reading a book is easier than reading a webpage.
June 3, 2002 (see Email # 7)
I tell Mr. Irving his copy of the book is in the mail.
June 5, 2002 (see Email # 8)
I send Mr. Irving an email requesting permission to promote the scheduled speaking event on my website.
June 5, 2002 (see Email # 9)
Irving grants permission and gives me a URL which contains specific information about the event. We agree that I would link to the specified URL (located on his site) from the homepage of my website.
June 15, 2002 (see Email # 10)
I send Mr. Irving an email requesting names of people willing to help me promote or publish my book. I state that I am interested in traveling the country on a book tour if he could direct me to the appropriate people in the industry.
June 15, 2002 (see Email # 11 & Email # 12)
Irving sends two emails less than a minute apart. The first is polite, the second is curt and somewhat rude. In the polite email (# 11), he says he cannot give advice on promoting OPIUM LORDS. He also says he is reading OPIUM LORDS and comments that "it is a bit extreme." Note, however, he does not challenge any of my documentation or my reasoning.
In the second email (# 12) he continues to berate me for using a pseudonym. He says that my "use of a pseudonym is a real turn-off." This criticism is made despite my having explained to Irving the reason for using a pseudonym (I cannot afford to have my livelihood destroyed by using my real name).
June 15, 2002 (see Email # 13)
I ask Irving why using a pseudonym is a "turn-off." I wonder why it should make any difference at all.
But I agree to compromise. I give him written approval to use my real name for promoting his Labor Day Real History Conference in Cincinnati.
July 2, 2002 (see Email # 14)
I send Mr. Irving an email advising him of a software tool (Websense) for Internet filtering that had labeled both our sites "racism/hate." As a result, the sites are being blocked from Websense’ customers. I had learned of Websense just that day and relayed the information to Irving as a favor.
July 2, 2002 (see Email # 15)
Irving sends me an email asking me to call him to "discuss if and whether you would talk at Cincinnati." He added that he still has not made up his mind.
"If" and "whether" I should speak? Obviously Irving is trying to back out of our agreement that I should speak. (See Emails 5 & 6 which confirm the terms of our agreement regarding the speaking engagement.)
Surprisingly, Mr. Irving ignores the information about Websense smearing his name.
July 2, 2002, Phone Calls
I phone Mr. Irving three times and speak briefly with him twice. He was too busy to have a conversation with me; however, I called a third time and left a polite voice message asking him to return the call. (He never did.)
July 2, 2002 (see Email # 16)
I asked Mr. Irving about his "if" and "whether" statements concerning my speaking engagement. I point out to him that he confirmed my speaking engagement. I ask that, after having received the bookOPIUM LORDS, and read it, whether his change of heart was occasioned by something he read. I attach a complete history of our correspondence.
July 3, 2002 (see Email # 17)
Mr. Irving does not answer my question. He responds by deleting the history of our correspondence and changing the subject. He now states that my talk would "focus" on Jack Ruby and the Zapruder film. (Note: Irving could get any JFK assassination hack to talk about these subjects. My unique contribution to the JFK assassination history is my documentation of its Israeli design.) He also continues to complain about my use of a pseudonym even though I had granted him permission to use my real name to promote the event.
July 3, 2002 (see Email # 18)
I send Mr. Irving another email requesting that he respond to my question without changing the subject and without deleting the history of our correspondence. I restate my basic question, Would I speak or not? And if not, then why not? Again, I specifically asked if he had read something in my book that had caused him to change his mind.
July 3, 2002 (see Email # 19 & Email # 20)
Irving sends two emails just 4 seconds apart. Both address my previous email. (# 18) In the first email (# 19), Irving now denies he has read Opium Lord, and says he was merely "glancing through it." This statement tends to contradict his earlier statement that my book "is a bit extreme." (see Email # 11) If Irving had not read the book, how could he characterize it in any way?
He now says OPIUM LORDS is "not the subject of the talk we may want to deliver."
In the second email (# 20), Mr. Irving now says that he did not confirm a speaking engagement with me. (This contradicts the history of our correspondence. See Emails # 5, 6, 8, & 9.)
Irving now says (# 20) that before I can speak at his conference, "first I must hear your views." (Irving already has my views, as expressed in Opium Lord and has already stated those views were "a bit extreme." See Email # 11.)
July 5, 2002 (Email # 21)
After thinking things over, I send Mr. Irving an email stating that Israel’s involvement in JFK’s murder must be the central part of my lecture; however, I did not mind discussing Jack Ruby and the Zapruder film as well. I point out that to focus only on Ruby and the Zapruder film and ignore Israel’s involvement would be intellectually dishonest.
July 5, 2002 (Email # 22 & Email # 23)
Mr. Irving responds with two emails less than a minute apart. In the first one (# 22), he politely agrees to my terms but warns me that the talk must be "well reined in, with no overt anti-Semitism as such." (??? !!!)
In the second email (# 23), he demands that I stop using my pseudonym or the invitation would be withdrawn. He does this despite my agreement that he could use my real name in his program. (see Email # 13)
At that point, it becomes clear to me that David Irving does not want me to talk about Israel’s involvement in the Kennedy assassination and is using the pseudonym issue as an excuse to cancel his invitation. I quickly send him the following short email message:
July 5, 2002 (Email # 24)
I tell Mr. Irving that I am intrigued that a man who professes to tell the unsettling truth about exaggerated German misdeeds during the period known as the "Holocaust" would work so hard to secretly defend Israel regarding JFK’s assassination. I call him a false prophet.
July 6, 2002 (Email # 25)
I receive a final email from Mr. Irving withdrawing the invitation to speak. He also accused me of trying to turn his conference into a "platform for anti-Zionist rhetoric."
Corroboration
I have included 25 emails between Mr. Irving an me, which include message headers, to demonstrate their authenticity. The emails are unedited with the following exceptions:
25 Emails Between David Irving and Salvador Astucia
Email # 1: From Salvador to David Irving, April 17, 2002
Synopsis: Salvador sent an email to David Irving (care of Irving’s webmaster) requesting that Irving’s site add a link to Salvador’s site.
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 16:49:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Salvador Astucia" <salvador_astucia@yahoo.com>
Subject: New History Book on jfkmontreal.com
To: Focalp@aol.com
April 17, 2002
[Please forward to David Irving.]
Dear Mr. Irving,
I am pleased to announce the completion of my new
book, which is online, about the assassination of
President John F. Kennedy. I believe it would be of
interest to students of modern history. In addition, I
have included your website on my list of recommended
links and request that you reciprocate if you believe
it would be appropriate. My book is entitled
"OPIUM LORDS: Israel, the Golden Triangle, and the
Kennedy Assassination"
It is available on the following URL for your review:
http://www.jfkmontreal.com
The 400-page manuscript is a serious historical
account that reveals how Israel exploited the Western
powers’ long history of opium trafficking as a means
of toppling the 35th US President. In addition, it
identifies the names of the assassins, the planners,
and the sponsors of the murder. But the story is not
merely about the death of President Kennedy, it also
answers many questions about President Richard M.
Nixon, the Watergate Scandal, the Vietnam War, the Six
Day War, the two World Wars, the American news media,
and the continuing Arab-Israeli conflict that
ultimately led to terrorist attacks on America on
September 11, 2001.
The text was written in a scholarly style, complete
with endnotes and footnotes.
Feel free to review the book and email your comments
to me.
Yours truly,
Salvador Astucia
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Email # 2: From David Irving to Salvador, April 18, 2002
Synopsis: Irving stated that he would look at Salvador’s online book the following week.
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 18:53:31 EDT
From: Focalp@aol.com
Subject: Re: New History Book on jfkmontreal.com
To: salvador_astucia@yahoo.com
Salvador, I will look at it next week, I am just breaking up here for a
move to the USA; how good is your English (spoken English)?
David Irving
[omitted Mr. Irving’s London address and phone numbers]
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Email # 3: From Salvador to Irving, April 18, 2002
Synopsis: Salvador reveals his true identity to Irving.
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 17:16:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Salvador Astucia" <salvador_astucia@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: New History Book on jfkmontreal.com
To: Focalp@aol.com
Dear Mr. Irving,
My spoken English is fine. In fact, Salvador Astucia
is a pseudonym. I am 100 percent American, born and
raised in [state omitted]. My real name is …
[real name, address, and phone number are omitted]
I request, however, that you not disclose my true
identity if you make any public statements about my
book.
You are one of the most courageous people I know. I
followed your case and was disappointed by the
outcome, but not surprised. But time has a way of
changing verdicts.
Would you like a hardcopy of Opium Lords? I can mail
it to you free of charge. Let me know.
Take care and I hope all goes well with the move.
[Salvador Asuticia]
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Subject: Re: New History Book on jfkmontreal.com
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Email # 4: From Irving to Salvador, May 31, 2002
Synopsis: Irving extends a tentative invitation to Salvador to speak at the Real History Conference on Labor Day Weekend.
From: Focalp@aol.com
Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 19:35:59 EDT
Subject: Re: New History Book on jfkmontreal.com
To: salvador_astucia@yahoo.com
Dear [Salvador]
(I am a bit worried about your use of the
pseudonym Salvador etc; reason for that is...?)
Hypothetical question: Can you come and speak
for an hour and take questions at our Labor
Day weekend function in Cincinnati? Last
weekend in August. On the JFK book. You can
ship the book to us and sell it to our
audience of 200-300 history buffs.
As you know, I am a British historian, and
organiser of an annual conference on what we
call Real History in Cincinnati. This is a
tentative inquiry at this stage. We are
hosting our fourth annual conference on Real
History on this coming Labor Day weekend
(the last weekend in August) at the Marriott
hotel in Cincinnati. It is a happy three-day
event, including leisurely lectures on WWII
controversies, and two evening dinners aboard
Ohio River paddle-steamers. You can see
pictures of the two last years function at
http://www.fpp.co.uk/cinc/2001/report1.html
and http://www.fpp.co.uk/cinc/2000/report.html
One of our main themes this year is the
September 11 events. We will have 200-300
history buffs and amateurs in the audience (but no
journalists).
If you feel up to it, all your reasonable
expenses for the weekend would be paid.
My phone number here in the US, if you'd like
to talk about it, is [number omitted].
David Irving ...
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Email # 5: From Salvador to Irving, June 3, 2002
Synopsis: Salvador accepted the invitation to speak. Salvador also provided Irving with requested information (preferred speaking time, visual aids, list of discussion threads).
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 10:02:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Salvador Astucia" <salvador_astucia@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: New History Book on jfkmontreal.com
To: Focalp@aol.com
June 3, 2002
Dear David Irving:
Thank-you again for inviting me to speak at the Real
History conference in Cincinnati this Labor Day
weekend. As I stated on the phone, I would be honored
to speak.
Before I continue, however, I would like to mail you a
free copy of Opium Lords. Could you provide a mailing
address?
Also, you had asked me to provide three things: (a) to
identify any visual aids I might need, (b) a preferred
time for my lecture, and (c) a list of discussion
points. Here is the requested information:
First point (props): I have decided that I would like
to show the Zapruder Film up front just to emphasize
that the public has been lied to about the nature of
the shots fired. Many of the so-called critics of the
Warren Report have lied or misled the public by
raising confusing points. You might be interested to
know that my analysis is completely unique from
anything you have ever heard before. Regarding
logistics, I suppose the easiest approach is to have a
TV with a large screen and a VCR. I will provide the
video of the Zapruder Film. All you need to do is have
a TV with some sort of screen display large enough for
everyone in the room to see it.
Second point (preferred time): My preference would be
Saturday morning, August 31.
Third point (discussion threads): I would like to
touch on 10 topics. I will spend about five minutes on
each topic (50 minutes total), which will give me 10
minutes at the end for questions.
1. Why Jewish political forces hated the Kennedys
2. Overview of the coup (defines the coup and the
players)
3. Analysis of shots - proving conspiracy (show
Zapruder)
4. Media connection (Jewish connection)
5. Jack Ruby
6. LBJ Being Jewish (strong circumstantial evidence)
7. The French-Corsican Assassins
8. Drug smuggling in Southeast Asia
9. Louis Bloomfield, the assassination engineer
10. The discrediting of Nixon
Please let me know if everything seems agreeable. And
feel free to provide a mailing address so I can mail
you a bound copy of Opium Lords.
Thanks again. I think it’s going to be fun.
Best regards,
[Salvador Astucia]
From Salvador Astucia Mon Jun 3 10:02:20 2002
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From: "Salvador Astucia" <salvador_astucia@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: New History Book on jfkmontreal.com
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Email # 6: From Irving to Salvador, June 3, 2002
Synopsis: Irving approved terms of speaking agreement and gave Salvador his mailing address in Florida so a copy of Opium Lords could be sent.
From: Focalp@aol.com
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 14:07:37 EDT
Subject: Re: New History Book on jfkmontreal.com
To: salvador_astucia@yahoo.com
sounds good
my address here is
David Irving,
[mailing address omitted]
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Email # 7: From Salvador to Irving, June 3, 2002
Synopsis: Salvador tells Irving that Opium Lords has been mailed to him.
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 13:49:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Salvador Astucia" <salvador_astucia@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: New History Book on jfkmontreal.com
To: Focalp@aol.com
Your book is in the mail.
[Salvador]
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From: "Salvador Astucia" <salvador_astucia@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: New History Book on jfkmontreal.com
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Email # 8: From Salvador to Irving, June 5, 2002
Synopsis: Salvador asks permission to promote, on his own website, his forthcoming speaking engaging at the Real History Conference.
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 14:36:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Salvador Astucia" <salvador_astucia@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: New History Book on jfkmontreal.com
To: Focalp@aol.com
Dear David Irving,
Would it be all right if I mention on my homepage that
I will be giving a lecture at the Real History
conference on Labor Day weekend? If you like, I can
put a link from my homepage directly to your event
information to help promote the conference. I’m
getting a fair amount of traffic (4,000 hits in less
than 2 months) so it can only help.
If that is acceptable, could you do me another big
favor and provide some quotable words of praise about
Opium Lords to help promote the book? Just sending
something in an email would be great. There’s no need
to publicly endorse it on your website, unless you
want to of course. I will put any such phrases on my
website right away. If that creates a problem in any
way, don’t worry about it. I won’t be offended if you
turn me down. But I figured it never hurts to ask :-)
Thanks again for inviting me to the conference.
[Salvador Astucia]
From Salvador Astucia Wed Jun 5 14:36:51 2002
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From: "Salvador Astucia" <salvador_astucia@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: New History Book on jfkmontreal.com
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Email # 9: From Irving to Salvador, June 5, 2002
Synopsis: Irving grants Salvador permission to promote the speaking event at the Real History Conference. Irving also gives Salvador a specific URL to link to from Salvador’s homepage.
From: Focalp@aol.com
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 17:46:44 EDT
Subject: Re: New History Book on jfkmontreal.com
To: salvador_astucia@yahoo.com
In a message dated 5.6.02 5:37:03 pm, salvador_astucia@yahoo.com
writes:
<< Would it be all right if I mention on my homepage that
I will be giving a lecture at the Real History
conference on Labor Day weekend? >>
Yes, go ahead
the link is http://www.fpp.co.uk/cinc/2002/index.html
David Irving ...
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Email # 10: From Salvador to Irving, June 15, 2002
Synopsis: Salvador requests promotional assistance from Irving. Specifically, Salvador asks if Irving can recommended someone to help set up a book tour for Opium Lords.
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 13:10:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Salvador Astucia" <salvador_astucia@yahoo.com>
Subject: Inquiry
To: Focalp@aol.com
Dear David Irving,
Do you know the names of any people who might be
willing to set up a national book tour to promote
Opium Lords?
[…] I would be willing to pack up
and go on the road indefinitely to give lectures and
sell books. I don't really need a publisher, although
obviously I would not refuse a good offer. But I can
get books manufactured myself at a low cost in small
quantities (so little cash outlay is required). All I
need are some speaking events at bookstores. I would
be willing to travel all around the country. Do you
know of anyone who could help me in that regard?
Thanks again.
[Salvador Astucia]
PS. My website is temporarily down, but it appears to
be a genuine technical problem. I've talked with the
web hosting provider and they assure me that it will
be up within 24 hours. These things happen.
From Salvador Astucia Sat Jun 15 13:10:09 2002
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Email # 11: From Irving to Salvador, June 15, 2002
Synopsis: Irving refuses to help Salvador promote Opium Lords.
From: Focalp@aol.com
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 17:03:49 EDT
Subject: Re: Inquiry
To: salvador_astucia@yahoo.com
In a message dated 15.6.02 4:10:25 pm, salvador_astucia@yahoo.com
writes:
<< Do you
know of anyone who could help me in that regard? >>
I can't do it or give advice; it has taken me ten years to build up my
own modest circuit. I am still lookign at your MS, for which many
thanks, by the way and will get back to you in a few days. It is a bit
extreme.
David Irving (now writing in Key West)
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Email # 12: From Irving to Salvador, June 15, 2002
Synopsis: Irving chastises Salvador for using a pseudonym.
From: Focalp@aol.com
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 17:04:28 EDT
Subject: Re: Inquiry
To: salvador_astucia@yahoo.com
Your use of a pseudonym is a real turn-off, by the way!
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Email # 13: From Salvador to Irving, June 15, 2002
Synopsis: Salvador grants limited permission to use his real name in promotion of the Real History Conference.
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 16:44:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Salvador Astucia" <salvador_astucia@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Inquiry
To: Focalp@aol.com
Why is using a pseudonym a turn-off? I do not claim to
be an historian. Although I wrote Opium Lords in the
"style" of a scholar, I never claimed to be one. If I
had made such a claim, then I would agree that using a
pseudonym is inappropriate. I am just an American
citizen interested in the Kennedy assassination and I
wrote a book on the topic.
Having stated that, you have my permission to use my
real name, […], on your website and any
marketing material for the Real History Conference.
You may refer to me as "[real name], author of Opium
Lords which he wrote under the pseudonym Salvador
Astucia." Or something along those lines.
Does that help?
[Salvador Astucia]
From Salvador Astucia Sat Jun 15 16:44:14 2002
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From: "Salvador Astucia" <salvador_astucia@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Inquiry
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Email # 14: From Salvador to Irving, July 2, 2002
Synopsis: Salvador advises Irving of a software tool (Websense) for Internet filtering that has labeled both their sites "racism/hate." As a result, the sites are being blocked from view to Websense’ customers.
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 09:46:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Salvador Astucia" <salvador_astucia@yahoo.com>
Subject: New information about site blocking
To: Focalp@aol.com
Dear David Irving,
I hope all is well with you.
I am sure you are well aware that your site is being
blocked in many places, but I just made an important
discovery about a specific software company that is
encouraging companies to block controversial web
sites, including yours and mine. I know for a fact
that our sites are being blocked at [name of agency
omitted]--and that Websense is the tool they
use--because it was an employee of that government
agency who alerted me of the situation.
This morning I found out that a company named
"Websense" has a software product that has categorized
your site and mine as "Racism/Hate." The URL for the
Websense site is http://www.websense.com/.
To corroborate your site’s present category
(racism/hate), just register with Websense and look up
your website’s URL in the Websense database. To
register, click the following URL (it’s free):
http://www.websense.com/sitelookup/index.cfm
I got the sitelookup information from Websense’
technical support. They also stated that Websense does
not "block" websites per se, they just label the
undesirable ones as racism/hate. Then it’s up to their
customers to block them. That appears to be their
official position. ("We don’t block websites, we just
categorize them. Customers block them.")
Websense states on its website that its target market
is "mid-sized to large corporations government
agencies."
I have attached my email exchanges with Websense.
Please note that I did not mention your name or site,
only mine.
Feel free to use my name (real or pen) if you choose
to communicate with Websense.
Best regards,
[Salvador Astucia]
[Emails to Websense omitted. Also, Websense changed
jfkmontreal.com's status in their database from "racism/hate" to
"advocacy group."]
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Subject: New information about site blocking
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Email # 15: From Irving to Salvador, July 2, 2002
Synopsis: Irving advised that he might cancel Salvador’s speaking event.
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Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:15:33 EDT
Subject: Re: New information about site blocking
To: salvador_astucia@yahoo.com
[Salvador]
give me a call sometime (numbers below) so we can discuss if and
whether you would talk at Cincinnati. Still haven't made up by mind.
I did however meanwhile thet the Zapruder film on DVD, heavily enhanced.
David Irving (now writing in Key West)
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Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 14:15:33 EDT
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Email # 16: From Salvador to Irving, July 2, 2002
Synopsis: Salvador asked Irving to explain his sudden change of heart.
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 20:06:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Salvador Astucia" <salvador_astucia@yahoo.com>
Subject: Discrepancy -- Salvador Astucia's lecture at RHC
To: focalp@aol.com
July 2, 2002
Dear Mr. Irving:
I was under the impression that you had confirmed my ensuing lecture at the Real History Conference in Cincinnati, Ohio on Saturday morning August 31, 2002. But in your last email, you indicated that you had not made up your mind whether I will speak or not. Please explain the discrepancy. Was your apparent change of heart occasioned by something that you read in my book?
According to my records, a tentative invitation was extended to me on May 31, 2002, followed by a telephone discussion between the two of us on the same date, and a definite speaking date was subsequently confirmed in writing by you on June 3, 2002. Per private email exchanges, we agreed that I would speak for one hour on Saturday morning August 31, 2002 and I would discuss a specified set of topics (see email).[*] In addition, my expenses would be paid. Confirmation was further solidified when you gave me written permission to advertise the stated speaking event on my website. The latter agreement was made via email on June 5, 2002. You even sent me a URL pointing to a spot on your site which contained specific information about the Real History Conference.
Today I emailed you about another matter unrelated to the scheduled event, but likely of interest to you. At least I thought you would be interested. I had discovered the name of a company that had labeled our websites as hate/racist sites. I provided detailed information on exactly what they were doing, who they were, and how you could contact them. I sent you this information as a favor because I thought you would want to know the name of a company who was smearing you. You did not respond to my email at all. Instead you indicated that my speaking engagement might be canceled.
Again, it was my understanding that we had a firm agreement that I would speak at the Real History Conference this Labor Day weekend; however, your recent communiqué suggests otherwise. Again, I respectfully request that you explain the discrepancy.
Sincerely,
Salvador Astucia
[* A history of previous emails was sent to Mr. Irving in the July 2nd transmission, but they are omitted now to avoid redundancy.]
From Salvador Astucia Tue Jul 2 20:06:50 2002
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From: "Salvador Astucia" <salvador_astucia@yahoo.com>
Subject: Discrepancy -- Salvador Astucia's lecture at RHC
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Email # 17: From Irving to Salvador, July 3, 2002
Synopsis: Irving changed the subject and complained about Salvador’s use of a pseudonym. Irving also tried to limit Salvador’s lecture to Jack Ruby and Zapruder film.
From: Focalp@aol.com
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:51:29 EDT
Subject: Re: Discrepancy -- Salvador Astucia's lecture at RHC
To: salvador_astucia@yahoo.com
I really want to discuss at length with you the nature of your presentation, which would focus on (a) Jack Ruby and (b) the Zapruder film. Your constant use of a pseudonym mis very disturbing in the context of Real History. Sorry I missed your calls last night, I was on the road, and I am driving up to Miami and back today, an eight-hour trip. perhaps call this evening.
David Irving (now writing in Key West)
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Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 09:51:29 EDT
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Email # 18: From Salvador to Irving, July 3, 2002
Synopsis: Salvador restated his concerns and requested that Irving not change the subject.
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 14:28:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Salvador Astucia" <salvador_astucia@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Discrepancy -- Salvador Astucia's lecture at RHC
To: Focalp@aol.com
July 3, 2002
Mr. Irving,
I am sure you will agree we should be logical in our communication with each other. Let us handle the topics under discussion in order.
Please do not delete my remarks when you reply to them. Deleting my remarks destroys the continuity of our conversation. It is disorienting.
Let us recap:
You learned about my book "Opium Lords," concerning Israeli involvement in the Kennedy assassination, via my website. (http://www.jfkmontreal.com) I informed you of the new site by email on April 17, 2002. You replied the next day. About six weeks later, on May 31, 2002, you invited me to your Labor Day Real History conference in Cincinnati to give a presentation. We chatted about logistics over the phone. By email, you confirmed that I would be speaking for one hour on Saturday morning, August 31, 2002. On June 5th, you gave me written permission to advertise the stated speaking engagement on the homepage of my website. You even advised me to link to a specific page on your site which contained information about the conference. I added the link that day. At that point, there should have been no question whatsoever as to whether I would speak or not.
In addition, when I accepted your invitation to speak, I sent you a printed copy of "Opium Lords" (on June 3rd). Nearly a month after you received it (July 2nd), you indicated that you were undecided about asking me to speak.
I wrote to you yesterday (July 2nd) to ask for an explanation, attaching a full email history of our correspondence. I stated that I was under the impression that the speaking engagement had been confirmed, and was puzzled to learn otherwise. I asked an explanation of the discrepancy.
Instead of answering my question, you evaded it. You even deleted my question, and the entire history of our correspondence, from your response. Instead, you changed the subject by bringing up other issues.
I do not wish to change the subject. I want you to address the question I brought up last time round. And I want to know if it was something you read in "Opium Lords" that caused you to change your mind.
To refresh your memory, I am providing you with a copy of my question and the history of our correspondence.
Although I have not met you in person, I have spoken to you over the phone and seen you interviewed on TV. I believe you possess a focused mind. I do not believe you are mentally scattered.
Please be direct with me. Tell me why you backed off inviting me after you had read "Opium Lords." And please do not delete the history of *this* conversation.
Sincerely,
Salvador Astucia
[A history of previous emails was sent to Mr. Irving in the July 3rd transmission, but they are omitted now to avoid redundancy.]
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Email # 19: From Irving to Salvador, July 3, 2002
Synopsis: Irving states that Opium Lords might not be the subject of Salvador’s lecture.
From: Focalp@aol.com
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 22:33:59 EDT
Subject: Re: Discrepancy -- Salvador Astucia's lecture at RHC
To: salvador_astucia@yahoo.com
In a message dated 3.7.02 5:29:40 pm, salvador_astucia@yahoo.com
writes:
<< Tell me why you backed off inviting me after you had read "Opium Lords." >>
I have not read it, =-- rthat wuld take several, days, which I do not have -- merely glanced through it. It is not the subject of the talk we may want you to deliver.
David Irving (now writing in Key West)
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Email # 20: From Irving to Salvador, July 3, 2002
Synopsis: Irving states they there was never a firm commitment for Salvador to speak.
From: Focalp@aol.com
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 22:34:03 EDT
Subject: Re: Discrepancy -- Salvador Astucia's lecture at RHC
To: salvador_astucia@yahoo.com
In a message dated 3.7.02 5:29:40 pm, salvador_astucia@yahoo.com
writes:
<< you invited me to your Labor Day Real History conference in Cincinnati to give a
presentation. >>
Not so, I provisionally asked if you would be available; a final list has not been drawn up,
and may well incldue you, but first I must hear your views.
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Email # 21: From Salvador to Irving, July 5, 2002
Synopsis: Salvador states that the central theme of his lecture must be Israel’s involvement in JFK’s assassination.
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 11:36:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Salvador Astucia" <salvador_astucia@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Discrepancy -- Salvador Astucia's lecture at RHC
To: Focalp@aol.com
July 5, 2002
Mr. Irving,
I am mystified by the following comment in your most recent email (July 3):
"It (Opium Lords) is not the subject of the talk we may want you to deliver."
If Opium Lords will not be the subject of the lecture, then why was I invited to speak?
The subtitle of my book—"Israel, the Golden Triangle, and the Kennedy Assassination"—must be the central theme of the lecture. I am willing to discuss Jack Ruby and the Zapruder film as well, but any JFK researcher can discuss those topics. If I limit the talk to those two points, it would be intellectually dishonest. In addition, who would care about me or my book if I do not discuss Israel’s involvement in the assassination? The end result is no one will buy any books. And that was part of your original invitation—that the Real History Conference would be a venue in which to sell my book.
You appear to be backing away from any discussion of Israel’s involvement in JFK’s murder. Why?
Salvador Astucia
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Email # 22: From Irving to Salvador, July 5, 2002
Synopsis: Irving agrees to Salvador’s request, but warns against "anti-semitism."
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Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 20:47:40 EDT
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Okay that will be satisfactory. We will go ahead on that basis. But the talk mustn be well reined in, with no overt anti-semitism as such.
[Mr. Irving quoted from Salvador’s previous email]
The subtitle of my book--"Israel, the Golden Triangle, and the Kennedy Assassination"--must be the central theme of the lecture.
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Email # 23: From Irving to Salvador, July 5, 2002
Synopsis: Irving reneges on his commitment by demanding that Salvador stop using his pseudonym completely, otherwise the invitation will be withdrawn.
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Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 20:48:27 EDT
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but if you continue to use a pseudonym the invitation will be
withdrawn.
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Email # 24: From Salvador to Irving, July 5, 2002
Synopsis: Salvador accuses Irving of being a "false prophet."
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 19:51:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Salvador Astucia" <salvador_astucia@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Discrepancy -- Salvador Astucia's lecture at RHC
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July 5, 2002
Mr. David Irving,
In your latest communiqués it has become plainly clear that you do not want me to speak of Israel’s involvement in the murder of President Kennedy at the upcoming Real History Conference. I am intrigued that a man who professes to tell the unsettling truth about exaggerated German misdeeds during the period known as the "Holocaust" would work so hard to secretly defend Israel regarding JFK’s assassination. Given your recent efforts to suppress, dictate and control free speech in the name of the Jewish State, I am reminded of the following ancient words:
"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
"Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
"…Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
(Matthew 7)
Salvador Astucia
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Email # 25: From Irving to Salvador, July 6, 2002
Synopsis: Irving withdraws his invitation and accuses Salvador of being "anti-Zionist."
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Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 08:14:42 EDT
Subject: Re: Discrepancy -- Salvador Astucia's lecture at RHC
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Dear [Salvador Astucia]
I am sorry to have to withdraw the invitation to speak, finally and
permanently. I have spent five years trying to establish my Cincinnati
function, at great personal expense, as a serious platform for history
debate. I cannot have this work jeopardised. To have it turned into a
platform for anti-Zionist rhetoric would defeat that purpose. There are
proper locations elsewhere for that sort of thing.
David Irving
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