Hawthorn berries I look at more as, like, they are strengthening to the heart and they are protecting to the heart. The cayenne is more to deal with the circulation. The hawthorn is more of a food for the heart but it should not be underestimated.  Today, the quality of hawthorn preparations stinks. The dosages are so small they're useless. I use five times as much as anyone else just to start but my patients lived.  The one thing good about hawthorn is that hawthorn is a food. Cayenne is a food. You can't overdose on hawthorn because there are chemicals in it that are like flavonoids; they are like vitamins, but they happen to protect the heart muscle from damage and cause the heart to be stronger. [1996] Shulze Biser Heal Your Life videos (transcripts)