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Opinion - India Knight

Don’t mess with measles

June 18, 2006

This whole measles business drives me up the wall. Figures released last week showed we’ve reached a 20-year high in cases of measles, following the collapse in MMR immunisation rates. The triple measles, mumps and rubella vaccine was introduced in 1988 and everything was fine for a decade, until a Dr Andrew Wakefield from the Royal Free hospital in London published a paper in The Lancet suggesting that there might be a link between MMR and the development of inflammatory bowel disease and autism.

Wakefield and his colleagues have continued to publish papers, keeping the controversy alive; though it appears that no researchers have been able to reproduce the findings of the first paper. Wakefield is about to be charged with serious professional misconduct by the General Medical Council; charges will include accusations of “inadequately founded” research, “improper funding” and conducting “unnecessary and invasive investigations” on children.

Meanwhile, more than 500m doses of MMR vaccine have been used worldwide. The World Health Organisation says the vaccine has an outstanding safety record. A major review published last year of 31 studies of MMR concluded that there were no credible grounds for questioning the jab’s safety. There exists no public data on the effectiveness of the single vaccine.

And yet here we are in the middle of a measles outbreak, with figures for the disease the highest for two decades. There have also been a significant number of fatalities in people who have developed measles, especially in America, and especially among the 18-22 age group.

In an outbreak of measles in Japan that was associated with the single vaccine — which some people apparently think preferable to giving measles, mumps and rubella all in one go but leaves children dangerously exposed in the time between jabs — there were 20 deaths.

And worldwide, it appears that more children have side-effects following the single vaccine. I could go on and on — and tell you, for instance, that all paediatricians at the Portland hospital in London have given their children the combined vaccine — but I think you probably get my drift.

I do hope you’re impressed with my MMR knowledge. I acquired it because my youngest child has a compromised immune system, and I wanted to make sure that we weren’t dicing with danger when it was time for her immunisations. I live in a part of London where hardly anyone “believes” in the triple vaccine, so off I trotted to our GP, to find out about single jabs. I asked my daughter’s immunologist at Great Ormond Street what she thought as well, for good measure.

The replies were utterly conclusive: don’t be an imbecile, and for heaven’s sake give her the triple vaccine. Our (private) GP doesn’t actually offer single vaccines, not least because tormenting a baby with six injections as opposed to two (with six lots of possibly feverish reactions), when there is no evidence that two don’t do the job beautifully, seems wilfully perverse.

Measles isn’t one of those piddly little childhood diseases like chickenpox. In its most benign form it is mild, but complications are common. They include a severe cough and breathing difficulties, pneumonia and eye infections; these most usually occur in the one-to-four age group.

One in a thousand people with measles get encephalitis (swelling of the brain). Of these, a quarter suffer permanent brain damage.

 In the 1940s and 1950s, 500 children a year died from measles.

Actually 567.7 figure was only in the 40's, half of it during war time, and 142.2 a year in the 50's, and 114.8 in the 7 years during the 60's before the introduction of the measles vaccine in 1966 http://www.whale.to/m/measlesdeaths1.html

Point to note: this was a 99.4% reduction from 1901/2 (averaged).  So vaccination can't have had more than a .6% effect on the reduction of measles deaths, and common sense would tell you the 99.4% factor in its reduction would be the factor to concentrate on, and the factor in the remaining % reduction.

Yet parents are sold the lie vaccination is the only or main factor in measles deaths elimination.

The death in April of a 13-year-old boy was the first in the UK for 14 years. If people don’t get a grip, it won’t be the last.

It would have been the last decades ago if the Allopaths had used the clinical knowledge of nutritional medical doctors Dr Fred Klenner and Dr Archie Kalokerinos.   If Allopaths were so concerned about measles deaths then why don't they use vitamin C?  Their refusal to use nutritional medicine gives me the signal that they are only concerned about vaccine sales http://www.whale.to/m/klenner.html http://www.whale.to/vaccines/kalokerinos.html

Maybe the real reason can be gleaned from this quote:

"Many viral infectious diseases have been cured  and can continue to be   cured by the proper administration of Vitamin C.  Yes, the vaccinations for   these treatable infectious diseases are completely unnecessary when one has   the access to proper treatment with vitamin C.  And, yes, all the side   effects of vaccinations...are also completely unnecessary since the vaccinations do not have to be given in the first place with the availability of properly dosed vitamin C."---Dr Thomas Levy M.D., J.D. (Vitamin C,  Infectious Diseases and Toxins p30) http://www.whale.to/a/levy_h.html

And mumps and rubella aren’t exactly a breeze, either: the former can lead to sterility in boys and the latter, if contracted by a pregnant woman, can cause blindness and deformities in her unborn child.

Did you know the last MMR vaccine was withdrawn when the mumps component caused meningitis in 1 in 11,000 children?  And when they withdrew it 2 years after they knew it was safe, and is still in use in third world countries? http://www.whale.to/vaccine/mmr15.html

Knowing that sort of takes away any faith I have in the medical professions putting children first.

What drives me especially mad about this subject is the deranged notion held by some parents — usually middle-class — that there is somehow a gigantic medical conspiracy to keep them in the dark about MMR. “There’s something we’re not being told,” they mutter ominously, as though the medical profession collectively gets its kicks by making people ill and deliberately triggering autism in their children.

This is ad hominem mad and conspiracy, i.e. A non-argument, which doesn't say much for your grasp of the information.  Also, there is a medical conspiracy, a monopoly is a conspiracy.  It doesn't get kicks making people ill, it just runs on power and money, the children are expendable.   History can prove that easily.

This is complete lunacy, obviously, and yet it is a viewpoint that not only persists but seems to gain credence by the day. Being opposed to the triple vaccine now goes hand in hand with a liking for yoga and a preference for organic food.

MMR vaccination can be taken apart purely through the statistics, medical history, and disease knowledge.   Stooping to name calling doesn't suggest you have any real argument, as you are demonstrating so well.

The father of a child who wasn’t given the triple jab and subsequently developed measles proudly told a broadsheet last week: “He had a very mild form of measles, which I attribute to his strong immune system.” The smuggery of this remark makes me practically levitate with rage.

Ignorance can make people angry, which is no excuse.  I suggest you educate yourself about homeopathy and naturopathy to  so you don't let your ignorance make a fool of you.  See: http://www.whale.to/m/measles3.html http://www.whale.to/m/measles4.html

There are tens of thousands of children who don’t have a strong immune system. There are children who barely have an immune system at all, and the chances are they go to the same school or nursery as children that are more fortunate.

Maybe.  Over 50% of measles deaths have been caused by a poor immune system caused by drugs such as steroids and chemotherapy for leukemia.  If MMR protects as you claim then they are protected, don't you read the propagnada sheets?  And who turns a blind eye to junk food?  One vaccinator even promotes sugar.

If stupid, selfish, irresponsible parents refuse to vaccinate their children — and in my corner of north London, not being vaccinated is almost the norm rather than the exception — and those children come into contact with babies or young children who aren’t yet old or well enough to have had their MMR, they are spreading disease and illness, with the complicit blessing of their parents.

If I were a politician, instead of mimsying about trying to score points and banging on pathetically about Leo Blair, I would come down on these parents like a ton of bricks. They base their lemming-like decisions on nursery-gate gossip and half-understood hearsay, rather than on a single iota of hard evidence. And, worse than that, they show blithe disregard for any children other than their own.

See yourself in others.  You swallowed the propaganda hook line and sinker.  I'll have a good laugh if we find out Leo had single shots.  We tried compulsory vaccination, sending people to jail, and it caused the biggest epidemic of smallpox they had ever seen.

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