Interview with a Male Abductee about Reptilians and Hybrids 

by James Bartley

    How do the Hybrids fit into all this?
    What will these hybrids do?
    How do you spot a hybrid?

           The following is an interview I had with an abductee who was referred to me by my mentor, Barbara Bartholic.  This abductee, “P.R.” had sent Barbara an audiotape of electronic sounds allegedly made by the reptilians during one of his abduction experiences.  P.R. called Barbara and they had a lengthy phone conversation during which Barbara independently confirmed many of the experiences reported by P.R.

           Barbara tried to play the audiotape on three different tape recorders and each time the tape recorder in question malfunctioned and never worked properly again.  After the third abortive attempt Barbara decided to call me into the case since P.R. had mentioned having read some of my writings and had himself undergone many of the experiences which I described in detail.

I subsequently had a lengthy phone conversation with P.R. and exchanged numerous e-mails with him.  I was impressed with P.R.’s candor and the astute observations he made about his abductions.  He described many things which I was already familiar with such as the astral dreamscape manipulation and the various and sundry ways the reptilians manipulate abductees.

           Barbara Bartholic told me before my first conversation with P.R. that she was flabbergasted that P.R. knew so many intimate details about the reptilians and their modus operandi.  Barbara has documented many of the details provided by P.R. from her work with several hundred abductees over a span of thirty plus years.

           What I was particularly interested in was his close observations of the human appearing hybrids.  These human hybrids have been described by other abductees but only a relative few (including a female abductee named “Karen” whom I also interviewed) have described their activities in any detail.  Other facets of P.R.’s revelations which greatly interested me was the reptilian’s ability to siphon off human life force energy as well as their ability to transfer the consciousness from a reptilian into a human being or human appearing hybrid.

           Due to the malign influence of the well known abduction researchers, many people within the UFO Community think that all alien abduction experiences are identical with absolutely no variation between them.  The “high strangeness” aspects of the experiences are almost completely left out of the equation.  We must never forget that phenomena which appears to most humans as “high strangeness” is nothing more than routine everyday events within the context of a civilization far older than ours and with technology and brain power far in excess of ours.   The aliens and reptilians  display a thorough understanding of human physiology and neurology. 

          Unfortunately the human race has been poorly served by the “Scientific Community.” This should come as no surprise considering the disproportionate amount of funding the Scientific Community receives from   Tax-Exempt Foundations, Multinational Corporations, the Department of Energy and the Pentagon just to name a few.  To provide such funding and then encourage real scientific study of UFOs would defeat the purpose of the longstanding well documented debunking and disinformation campaign against UFO reality.  Since scientists are conditioned and trained to discount the reality of UFOs, it is relatively easy to convince some of them to be UFO debunkers, especially if they will be paid for their debunking efforts.  Scientists cannot be expected to think or behave any differently.  They have been indoctrinated and are in need of funding.

                    I have to laugh when skeptics and debunkers demand scientific proof for UFO sightings and alien abductions.  How can “science,” as controlled as it is today, possibly explain the types of phenomena described by UFO witnesses and alien abductees?  Witnesses have described seeing a beam of light descend in a telescoping fashion from a UFO down to the ground.  UFOs have been seen to divide into numerous parts and fly off in different directions.  Conversely two or more UFOs have been seen to fly towards one another and merge into one object.  UFOs have been seen to change shape in mid-flight. 

           Abductees and military and scientific “insiders” have described a paradox wherein the interior of a craft appears to be far larger than the exterior of a craft.  UFOs have been known to be visible in the visual spectrum but invisible to radar and vice versa. 

           Alien abductees and workers within underground facilities describe self navigating, luminous orbs of light which despite their brilliance, do not cast reflective light off of nearby surfaces.  Once I was abducted after midnight and was returned at approximately 10:15PM.  In other words I was returned to a point in time before I was abducted in the first place.  “Modern Science” does not have an explanation for any of these events.  Countless scientists have proven themselves to be nothing more than opportunists who bow and scrape before Corporations, Foundations and the Federal Government in order to obtain funding for research projects that are trivial in comparison to the study of UFOs and alien abductions.  Debunking scientists have played a key role in holding back the technical and indeed the spiritual development of the Human Race.  As far as I’m concerned, these debunkers are “War Criminals” no different from the establishment shills in the corporate media and academic community who promote perpetual war abroad and crass stupidity and a police state at home.

          The same goes for the bought and paid for “psychologists” and “psychiatrists” who work as debunkers against alien abductees.  When you consider how many “mental health professionals” have actively participated in government mind control programs like the late and unlamented Dr. Louis Jolyn West, and Dr. Ewen Cameron just to name two, psychologists and psychiatrists are literally the last people you want to consult regarding traumatic experiences such as alien abductions and reptilian rapes.

           So keep all this in mind when you read P.R.’s account of his experiences with the reptilians and the sadistic hybrids.  During the interview portion of this paper, I am “J.B.” and the eyewitness is “P.R.” 

The stage is set for the mass deployment of these human appearing hybrids. 


 J.B. - From your perspective, what are these reptilians doing here and what are they trying to accomplish?

 P.R. - The Reptilians view humans as a resource, food, slaves, breeding stock, and their property. They are here to eventually take complete control of the Earth after a number of Reptilian engineered natural catastrophes (such as new diseases and weather changes) and other catastrophes that appear to be man made (such as wars,). Then they plan to turn the surviving inhabitants into mind controlled slaves that are intended to be used for various purposes including the ones listed above. Something of equal importance if not more so is the fact that they are attempting to retard and keep humanity from spiritually evolving.  As a matter of fact they want humanity to spiritually devolve  to a point where we are unable to break free of them.

 J.B. - Can you mention some of the ways that the reptilians manipulate humans?

 P.R. - They use their very advanced telepathic abilities and their technology to create manipulated artificial dreamscapes within a sleeping abductee's mind. They also use astral abduction where the abductee is placed in virtual reality scenarios. Some of these scenarios are used in combination with their telepathic abilities and mind control technology to make the abductee resort to self destructive behaviors such as drug abuse or sexual promiscuity. I guess they can even turn someone into a serial killer.  They also use implants that are designed for the sole purpose of mind control. They use their telepathic abilities to influence and mind control the abductee. They also have technology to remotely mind control the abductee. They can also make the abductee experience great pain. For example severe headaches and abdominal pains. The headaches and abdominal pains can be so severe that they can incapacitate the abductee. They can cause an abductee to be chronically ill. They use both physical and psychological torture. They use sleep deprivation. They also resort to rape.

J.B. - Can you describe the process of energy and consciousness transference from reptilians into genetically engineered human bodies?

 P.R. - I have only seen this process once. I saw what appeared to be a human body lying on a table. Next to it was a reptilian that was also lying on a table. Above both the Reptilian and human body was what looked to be electronic devices and machinery.  Somehow the Reptilian’s energy body, astral body, soul (I must say here that I don't think that they possess true souls) or whatever you want to call it was transferred from the Reptilian into the human appearing body.

J.B. -  Does the above process have anything to do with the sadistic human looking hybrids that have been described by abductees?

P.R. - The hybrids were present during the procedure but I do not know if they were involved with the process.

J.B. - Do you believe that some of the human looking hybrids are connected to the reptilians?

 P.R. - Yes, they were created by the reptilians.

 J.B. - Can you describe some of the acts of cruelty and sadism perpetrated by both the reps and the hybrids?

 P.R. - They sometimes feed on people's life forces to the point where it is difficult for the abductee to walk because the feeding process leaves the abductee in a weakened and lethargic condition. Sometimes they feed on the heart area to the point of causing the heart to race so fast that it feels as if it is going to burst. They rape abductees. They insert large needles into the abdomen which is very painful. They beat abductees. One time I remember the hybrids had me in a paralyzed state. I was conscious but I could not move. One of the human appearing hybrids  produced a butterfly knife and sliced my abdomen with the knife. Soon thereafter another hybrid produced a hand held device and pointed it at the wound and the wound completely healed. They can cause the abductee physical pain 24/7. For example I have severe headaches 24 hours a day. They are so painful that they sometimes leave me in an incapacitated state. Many times the headaches are accompanied by severe abdominal pains and nose bleeds. What I just described are just some of the ways the reptilians and their hybrids torture people.

 J.B. - How have the reptilians messed with your sexuality?

 P.R. - On many occasions they have raped me. They have even tried to alter my sexual orientation by using dreamscape manipulation, sexual stimulation devices, mind control technology, and their telepathic abilities.  

J.B - 4) Can you describe the process of energy harvesting and what if any connection (if there is one) between the energy harvesting from humans and the torture and cruelty the reptilians and hybrids inflict on people?

 P.R. - As I described above they feed on human life force energy. As hard as it may be to believe they put their hands on the body area they want to feed on, and then siphon off the energy in a vampiristic fashion. The reptilians and their hybrids directly feed on their victims because it gives them a bigger rush than consuming energy obtained from the second method described below. They also force the abductee to experience certain emotions such as fear. They then directly feed on the abductee. The same thing is true for sex. They will torture their victims to put the abductee in the desired state. They will torture, forcibly sexually stimulate, and mind control their victim in order to put the abductee in the desired state.

They also have chambers in the form of transparent rectangular boxes. The abductee is placed in the chamber. Then some kind of electronic equipment and machinery are activated. The abductee's life force is then extracted and transferred into storage containers. They also extract biological tissues and fluids.

J.B. - Can you describe the times that the reptilians had drained the life force from a human baby and then consumed the baby?

P.R. - I saw the reptilians feed on a newborn baby. They fed (siphoned its entire life force) on the baby until it turned a very dark color and shriveled up like a dried up prune. The baby died. The reptilians then ate the baby's body.

J.B. - Have you perceived any kind of hierarchy amongst the reptilians and the human hybrids?  You described the "exalted ones," "the middle management" and the "Low level thugs."

P.R. - There is a hierarchy. It is arranged with the leaders at the top. I once heard one of their leaders referred to as an "exalted one." Then there is the mid-management. It is their job to direct the lower reptilians and the human appearing hybrids. Then on the bottom of the ladder are the lower order reptilians and the human appearing hybrids.

J.B. - Can you describe the psychic and paranormal abilities of these hybrids? They seem to be genetically imbued with sadistic qualities. Can you describe the hybrid that appeared to you wearing a suit?

P.R. - They have telepathic abilities that enable them to read people's minds and communicate with each other. They have the ability to leave their physical bodies and travel about in their parasitic energy bodies. When in that state they can remain invisible or lower their density to the point where they can materialize and appear just as solid as you or I.  The same is true for their ships materializing and de-materializing.

The one in the suit was not as sadistic as the other human appearing hybrids or the lower order reptilians who can only be described as psychopaths and sociopaths, although they can mask those traits (psychopathic and sociopath) in public very well. The one in the suit was more business like. 

J.B. - Please describe how the hybrids have infiltrated society and how they own and operate businesses and real estate. You've described these hybrids as having infiltrated into ALL strata of human society. Describe some of the places you have seen these hybrids.

P.R. - I have seen them in law enforcement, running and working in restaurants, in libraries, bar and grills, clubs, antique shops, and art galleries. I am sure that you could find them in every area of human society.  The hybrids are psychopaths and sociopaths, although like I stated earlier they can mask those very disturbing  traits extremely well while operating in public.  Some do not demonstrate any emotion at all, and are very business like. Others are very cruel. Some like to torture the abductee. Still others only want to feed on the abductee; but then again they all want to feed on humans. It all depends on the genetic and psychological make up of the reptilians, as it appears they (the hybrids) are genetically programmed to exhibit specific traits and behaviors. I would like to state one last thing. It appears that it is very important to the reptilians and their hybrids to have complete control over the abductee. I mean complete control over all areas of the abductee's life. Complete control over the abductee is extremely important to them.

J.B. - Describe the “transports” which are used to bring in more hybrids and the locations these events took place and the manner in which you were brought there.

P.R. - I have seen the types of ships that Adamski and Van Tassel reported observing. I saw one of these ships land on a small rural island just off the Texas Gulf Coast. The ship appeared out of thin air and was glowing white. After it landed a group of "new arrivals" departed from it in an orderly line. The new arrivals appeared to be human, although I know they were reptilian hybrids. They were loaded into dark colored, dark tinted passenger vans and then driven off.

I don't know why I was brought there.

A young man came to my door in the early morning hours on a summer night in 1994. I could not sleep that night and had my door open to let in some fresh air since I didn't have any air conditioning. The young man told me that someone wanted to see me. At that time I didn't know who or what they were and thought them to be benevolent. We then went outside to a parked car. The car looked to be a Chevy Caprice. It was dark in color and had dark tinted windows. There was an antenna on the back of it. It looked like an unmarked police car. Inside the car was a man dressed in a black suit. He drove me to a bridge which connected the island I lived on to the island in question. We then drove to a secluded road until we reached a gate with two men standing on each side of it (the gate). The gate was raised and we proceeded down a dirt road for about 1/2 mile until we reached the landing site.   

J.B. - Can you describe some of the technology you have observed?

P.R. - I have seen devices that heal wounds. I have seen the sexual stimulation devices that they forcibly use on male abductees. I have seen an instrument that displays the activity that occurred in a certain location throughout the day. I have seen a stun gun-like instrument that is placed to the side of the head of a sleeping abductee that discharges energy into the abductee’s brain which renders him or her completely unconscious and immobile. They also have a device that resembles a small black box with a button on the top of it. It can render an abductee unconscious and paralyzed. They also have a device that emits some kind of energy field that engulfs the abductee and renders him or her unconscious and immobile. I have seen the black boxes that are used to store the astral bodies of abductees. I have seen a device that captures the astral body of an abductee. It emits a beam of energy that engulfs the abductee; then the abductee’s astral body is drawn into the device for storage. Finally I have seen devices that erases the memory of abduction from an abductee's mind.  

J.B. - Can you describe other craft that you've seen?

P.R. - I have seen a silver disk shaped craft. I have seen a saucer shaped ship that was transparent except its outline and a bright white light located on the top of its dome.

In closing I would like to emphasize that the reptilians and their allies are capable of committing many heinous atrocities such as mass rape, murder, mind control, slavery, life force vampirism, theft of human biological tissues and fluids, genocide, butchery, mutilation, genetic engineering, cannibalism, and much more.


          If someone has only been exposed to the abduction research propagated by the well known mostly East Coast researchers, it would be easy to dismiss out of hand the testimony provided by “P.R.”  Unfortunately these big name researchers have for all intents and purposes established parameters which have effectively defined the entire alien abduction syndrome.  We have been led to believe that ALL alien abduction experiences are nearly identical, and that they follow a predictable sequence.  The only aliens which seem to be described by the abductees who work with these big name East Coast researchers are the ubiquitous “Greys” or cross-breed variants thereof.  If Human-appearing beings are described it is always assumed they are cross-bred with or are genetic off-shoots of the Greys. 

          Not only have eyewitness accounts of reptilians been downplayed and marginalized but accounts of beings that appear perfectly human are likewise dismissed out of hand.  Most “serious” researchers liken any reports of aliens that appear human to the much maligned “contactee cases” of the 1950s and 1960s.  It is my considered opinion that at least some of those “contactee cases” need to be re-evaluated.  It is not uncommon for people in the Latin American countries, Europe and the former Soviet Union to describe encounters with beings that appear perfectly human.  There were beings which appeared human in the famous Travis Walton case but that fact is seldom if ever mentioned in documentaries and was omitted entirely in the movie based on Travis Walton’s experiences.

          Many of the elements that are described by P.R. have been documented on numerous occasions by Barbara Bartholic, the Dean of Alien Abduction researchers.  The energetic harvesting of abductees, the infliction of pain and suffering upon the abductee and the transfer of the astral-soul matrix from one body to the next have all been documented by Barbara Bartholic time and again.  The aliens and reptilians in particular seem to have an abiding interest in what we think of as the Human Soul.  P.R. has expressed his belief that the reptilians (whom he also refers to as “parasites”) don’t possess Souls as we understand the term.  The key elements to P.R.’s testimony can be divided into the following:

1)  The Reptilians manipulate and exploit humans in a variety of ways including but not limited to sexual manipulation, energetic harvesting, infliction of physical and psychological abuse, mind control, and the collection of genetic material.

2) The reptilians have imbued certain behavioral and physical characteristics into some of the abductees they are taking.

3) At least some of the Human appearing hybrids have been created or are otherwise under the control of the reptilians.  There seem to be many of these human hybrids and they have infiltrated all strata of human society.

4) These human appearing hybrids can be extremely cruel and sadistic and frequently manifest utter contempt for abductees.  They have the ability, whether through metaphysical means, technological or both, to manifest instantly in the home of an abductee.  The hybrids can read minds and download imagery and information into an abductees mind.  (Another abductee named “Karen” has provided much information about the psychic and metaphysical capabilities of hybrids.)

5) The reptilians and the human hybrids working for the reptilians utilize advanced hand held technology.

          P.R. described a hand held device that somehow records all the activity in a particular location.  The hybrids return to a location such as an abductee’s living room or bedroom.  They activate the device and all the events which transpired at this location will appear on a small view screen on the hand held device.  P.R. witnessed the hybrids utilize this device on more than one occasion.

          P.R. described the small black box that renders abductees immobile or unconscious.  This has been described by numerous abductees during encounters with aliens.  Milabs have also reported military black ops personnel utilizing a similar device to render all the occupants of a household including pets unconscious.  The frequency emissions of this device can be modulated so as to not affect the milab who is to be kidnapped.

 One of the hand held devices which P.R. described to me but didn’t mention in this interview is a device that can render everyone in a large room completely inert.  P.R. described an incident when he was taken to a restaurant during the lunch hour by one of the hybrids.  There were many patrons in the restaurant.  The hybrid pulled out a hand held device and activated it and everyone in the restaurant was instantly frozen in place, as if Time had stopped for them.  The hybrid also told P.R. that this restaurant was one of a number of businesses that were owned by them.

How do the Hybrids fit into all this?

          There can never be enough credit given to P.R. for coming forward with this information.  He has already been tortured countless times by the reptilians and the hybrids.  Yet he chose to share this information with the world despite the inevitable backlash and reprisals which are sure to come his way.  All of us owe a debt of gratitude to P.R.

           This part of the paper consists of conclusions and theories which are my own.  Barbara Bartholic provided no input for this part of the paper.

There are essentially three types of “hybrids.”  Type 1 Hybrids are alien abductees who have been genetically altered by their alien controllers.  I personally know and am friends with many examples of the Type 1 Hybrids.  Some are reptilian-human hybrids but that fact doesn’t make these people “negative” or evil.  It is the Soul within that is the overriding factor which determines the behavior and characteristics of an individual.  There are Mantis-Human hybrids as well as Grey-Human hybrids.  Some abductees are genetically descended from beings that are perfectly human in appearance.

           There are probably some “serious” abduction researchers (chuckle) who might object to my characterization of mere abductees as being “hybrids” but when you consider the heightened psychic abilities of some abductees, the fact that some of them have been trained to operate alien technology and even fly certain types of alien craft and have been known to manifest metaphysical capabilities, I believe the characterization is apt.  There are times when reptilian hybrids will inadvertently or sometimes intentionally shape shift momentarily into reptilian form.  Other times the round pupils of the reptilian hybrid will momentarily shift to vertical pupils.  Some of the full blooded reptilian hybrid bloodlines have pupils that are diagonal and even completely vertical when in their normal state.  If you get a chance, watch the interview of former MI5 Officer Victor Rothschild when he tries to explain away his connection to the Cambridge Spies.  His pupils are nearly vertical. 

           I am convinced that the military seeks out hybrids within their ranks and utilizes some of them in deep black ops involving Aliens, Mind Control and ET technology.  Reptilian hybrids imbued with an authoritarian mindset are routinely placed into positions of power and influence within the Federal Government and Defense Department.

           A second type of hybrid (Type 2 Hybrid) is the type that is half grey-half human.  This is most commonly reported during alien abductions where the abductee is taken to a “nursery” where her or she is shown grey-human babies and is sometimes told that the baby was developed from genetic material taken from the abductee.  The abductee may be presented with this hybrid child at various stages during its lifespan.

                    The third type of hybrids are the aforementioned human appearing hybrids (Type 3 Hybrid).  In most cases they are described as appearing perfectly human.  Other times they have been described with vertical slit pupils indicating a reptilian heritage.  Sometimes the hybrid will wear dark glasses in order to conceal the vertical pupils.  As others have pointed out, the reptilians have genetically manipulated the surface population to ensure that their hybrids are in positions of power here on the surface.  Some obvious reptilian bloodlines are the Harrimans, Rockefellers and Rothschilds.  The genetically engineered hybrids that are the focus of this paper are trained to blend into human society but may appear quite awkward and clumsy in social settings.  Some blend in quite well.  Many of them have a sadistic streak which they can hide in public.  P.R. and the aforementioned “Karen” have described human appearing hybrids of all ages.

What will these hybrids do?

           P.R. told me in a phone conversation that the hybrids were “everywhere…EVERYWHERE.”  He has seen them in practically every social setting that he has found himself in.  In their arrogance, the hybrids  frequently reveal themselves to P.R. in public.  The hybrids had shown P.R. the real estate, apartment complexes, restaurants and other businesses they  own.  They have taken him to these establishments.  The hybrids have also taken him to apartments where hybrids live.

           The key to determining what these Type 3 Hybrids may be used for is their observed behavior and their reptilian genetic lineage.  Since America is well on its way to becoming a police state, I believe some of these hybrids will be used in agencies and bureaucracies where their sadism and thuggish behaviors will be utilized to maximum affect.  I believe these hybrids will be used to ride herd on unwitting law enforcement and military personnel who refuse to “get tough” on the citizens of this country.  The hybrids will be seeded throughout the bureaucracies of local, state and federal agencies and likewise ride herd on recalcitrant or unenthusiastic bureaucrats who refuse to go along with “The Program.”

           It’s a known fact that former members of the Soviet-era KGB such as General Yevgeny Primakov and General Aleksandr Karpos as well as former East German STASI HVA chief Markus Wolf are now working for the U.S. Government in a counterintelligence and security capacity within the United States.  It should therefore come as no surprise to find these sadistic human appearing hybrids in law enforcement or the military. 

           Back in the early 1990s I had an encounter with a tall blonde square-jawed hybrid at the Naval Air Station I worked at.  This hybrid was wearing a grayish flight suit and sat in the passenger seat of a white United States Marine Corps sedan.  Sitting in the driver’s seat was a tall man wearing camouflage fatigues who was speaking into a walkie-talkie.  This blonde hybrid used its psychic ability to telepathically send messages of extreme malevolence and hatred at me.  It’s a long story but I was quite intimidated.

           In the mid 1990s through a serendipitous chain of events I met a woman named “Peggy” who was a computer programmer who had previously worked at both the U.S. Marine Corps Recruiting Depot (MCRD) in San Diego and Camp Pendleton in Oceanside California.  Peggy had also worked with some police departments as a computer programmer.  She told me that she and a girlfriend kept encountering these tall blonde square-jawed marines at night clubs near Camp Pendleton in Oceanside California north of San Diego.  She said she found these “marines” unusual because they didn’t  want to engage in any kind of discourse or interaction with the many women at these night clubs despite the fact that these women seemed very interested in them.

           These marines all looked nearly identical and were socially ill at ease and at times seemed very awkward.  Out of curiosity, Peggy accessed the personnel database at Camp Pendleton and found out that every single one of these tall blonde square-jawed marines were allegedly born in small towns near Los Alamos New Mexico.  As far as I knew, Peggy was unaware of cloning or the fact that the Department of Energy ran the Human Genome Project out of Los Alamos National Labs.  I never mentioned the subject of aliens or hybrids with her.  All this information she gave me was entirely unsolicited.

           Peggy had independently confirmed that the personnel database of the United States Marine Corps listed the places of birth for these human appearing hybrids as small towns near Los Alamos New Mexico.  I happen to believe that at least some of these hybrids are genetically engineered in a number of places above ground and below ground.  From my personal perspective I can only tell you the following:  A sadistic hybrid that was telepathically beaming malevolent thoughts at me was wearing a grayish flight suit and was sitting in a white U.S. Marine Corps sedan which was parked in the Admiral’s parking spot.  No one parks in the Admiral’s spot.

           I was sitting in my office within the headquarters of a three star “type” command for Naval Air Forces.  Although I didn’t see the face of the driver wearing the camouflage fatigues I suspect he was a human military handler of the hybrid.  These hybrids do indeed exist.  They are everywhere including military installations.

           So no one can ever tell me that these hybrids have not infiltrated or have otherwise been brought into the military.  In all likelihood, deep black military controllers had sent that hybrid to intimidate me.  The reason I was getting harassed was because of a particular case I was working on.  That’s another story.

           The bottom line is that these hybrids are already here and according to P.R. and others like him, more hybrids are arriving all the time.  Many of these hybrids are imbued with a sadistic mindset and derive pleasure out of torturing and raping humans.  P.R. has stated these hybrids were created by the negative reptilians and in some cases have had the consciousness of reptilians transferred into them.  P.R. merely confirmed information that had already been obtained from other sources. 

                    The hybrids, like certain factions of the grey aliens, are acting as front men for the negative reptilians.  Their sadistic attitude towards humans is ideally suited for this burgeoning police state.  This is why I cannot believe their sadistic talents won’t be utilized to the fullest degree. 

How do you spot a hybrid?

           Hybrids have dark hair, red hair or blonde hair and are in different stages of development i.e. children, teenagers and adults.  According to both P.R. and “Karen,” the “security thugs” and “rapists” tend to be dark haired.  Some of the hybrids appear awkward and ill at ease in public.  Their awkward behavior may be an indication that they have not fully acclimated themselves to human society.

           Hybrids can appear inside of a home instantly without any prior notice.  Whether this is the result of technology or inherent metaphysical capabilities on the part of the hybrids is open to question.  Some abductees believe the hybrids use the same technology that the greys use when they appear inside a house.  The fact of the matter is that they can suddenly appear in the house of the abductee and harass and even rape the abductee.  “Karen” stated that hybrids held her head underwater in her bathtub and in the swimming pool for extended periods for not cooperating with them.  Usually everyone else in the house is asleep and cannot wake up no matter how much noise is made by the hybrid and the abductee.  Often as not the hybrids will appear when the abductee is alone or after everyone has gone to sleep.

           The hybrids have been known to appear at the front door of an abductee and take the abductee away in a motor vehicle.  Hybrids have been known to “car jack” an abductee.  The abductee will be driving along and suddenly a hybrid appears on the side of the road and the abductee is compelled to pull over and let the hybrid in.  If there are other passengers in the car at the time, the passengers will be placed into an altered state and will not remember anything that occurred in the presence of the hybrid.

           Hybrids are extremely psychic and telepathic.  I will elaborate on these capabilities at length in the interview with “Karen.”  They can look into the eyes of an abductee and “download” huge amounts of information.  They can telepathically command an abductee to either forget an experience or to not learn more about their experiences.

           The hybrids are part and parcel of the Reptilian Overlordship and the New World Order.  They are already being used in deep black military operations including but not limited to harassing abductees and researchers.  In all likelihood the hybrids are already working in various local, state and federal agencies.  P.R. himself has observed hybrids working as police officers.  As P.R. says, “They are everywhere…EVERYWHERE.” 

           People need to wake up and recognize this threat in their midst.  The hybrids and their reptilian masters will stop at nothing to achieve their goal of total control and subjugation of the surface population.  A decision to remain ignorant about the reptilians and their hybrid minions is an automatic decision to submit to their will and control.  Many people have unwittingly encountered hybrids because they can be found in all walks of life.  And more and more of them are arriving from their off-world bases.

           P.R. was told by the reptilians that they have “found another planet.”   P.R. inferred that the reptilians are going to start this whole process anew on another planet.  In all likelihood they will begin by genetically upgrading a native hominid species or conversely they may transplant hominids there.  These hominids will be genetically upgraded with human and reptilian DNA.  Or they can bypass that step altogether and bring primitive homo sapiens there.  The human DNA will come from this planet or other planets similarly enslaved by the reptilians.

          In this fashion, as was the case on Earth, they can create the Cosmologies, Religions and Belief Systems of the targeted planet in order to create strife and conflict within the various “tribes” and developing “nations.”  Secret Societies made up of reptilian-human bloodlines will covertly steer the direction of the surface population’s development.  The reptilians will closely monitor and control the technological development of the “natives” to ensure the latter’s development is similar or identical to what we have observed on Earth.  “Advanced Alien Technology” will eventually be introduced but only as a means to further control the surface population.  The Alien Technology will be strictly controlled as it is here on Earth.  Eventually Global Governance will be attained by the reptilians.   

           Remember:  These reptilians, due to their inherent interdimensional and technological capabilities, are essentially immortal.  A number of abductees have described how interdimensional reptilians possess human bodies that have been prepared for them.  They utilize these bodies until the bodies become too old or infirm.  Then their consciousness is transferred into another specially prepared body.  Moreover other technologically advanced species such as some of the Grey and Nordic factions are essentially cosmic vassals of the reptilians and do the latter’s bidding.  From the standpoint of attaining total control of a subservient population the above model is the ideal modus operandi rather than invading an already advanced or semi-advanced civilization which would view any species arriving from beyond their world with fear and mistrust.  This fear and mistrust may translate into fierce resistance against the reptilian invaders.

           It is up to us to throw off the yoke of reptilian and hybrid oppression on this planet.  We must also ensure that this process is not continued elsewhere in the Cosmos.  If human DNA is utilized to genetically upgrade an existing sentient hominid species on another planet in order to make them genetically compatible and subservient to the reptilians, than in a very real sense, those future slaves are our genetic descendants or at the very least our cousins.  We cannot allow this process of reptilian domination and control to continue endlessly throughout the Cosmos.  We have to make a stand somewhere.  This planet Earth is as a good place to start as any. 

James Bartley is an Alien Abductee who has had numerous encounters with the Reptilians and the Greys.  He is a student of Military History with an emphasis on Intelligence, Counterintelligence and Special Operations.  He has also studied the corporate, financial, military, occultic and political aspects of the reptilian inspired New World Order.  He has worked in an intelligence-related capacity with Naval Air Forces (NAVAIR) in Southern California.